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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You can't just tuck the wings back in the same way because the feathers will get stuck on the shirt when going against the grain. I imagine it's easier to pull the shirt up from the bottom and have the wings stretched out over his head.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 6 points 4 days ago

My thoughts exactly

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 125 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Guess it works if you got tiny ass wings that wouldn't lift anything. Bumblebee ass mfer

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 days ago

That's what we all say. I mean they

[–] stingpie@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Tiny wings are very much capable of lifting heavy things, but they have to flap super quickly. Humming birds have really tiny wings compared to their size, but since they never glide, it's not important. The bigger issue is the position of the wings.

Since the line between the center of mass and center of force (the wings) is not perfectly vertical, Pit would lean forward during flight. His body would be suspended under his wings. This means his body is blocking most of the wind generated by his wings. So he would have to exert even more force to stay flying. Plus, your arms would get super sore when all that force is pushing them forward.

It should also be noted that Put doesn't have the musculature to support this level of force. His biceps are connected to his arms, not his wings, so he must have a separate set of muscles specifically for his wings. The only suitable anchor points are his ribs and spine, but in no art do we see the require muscle groups around his shoulder blades.

In short: I don't think this is real, guys.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hummingbirds get lift on both strokes, forward and back, and require an extremely specialized set of wings to do so.

In regards to your comment about muscles for lift, birds have a “keel bone” (like a boat) which is where the anchors for their wing muscles are. Equivalent to our sternum. So the muscles for flight in the image would be on the front, not the ribs or spine.

[–] stingpie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I thought about that, but I don't think that makes sense in this situation. The wings and arms must use different muscle groups, and the biceps would be used for the arms, not the wings. Furthermore, since the wings are on the back of Pit, the muscles would either have to wrap around the rib cage or go through them, constricting the lungs.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago

I’m not sure what your comments about the arms have to do with anything. Your sternum is on your chest, wings on your back, I’m not understanding why you’re talking about arms.

In regards to muscles having to wrap around the rib cage, that’s exactly how birds wing muscles work.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

What if he's just really really light

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 4 points 4 days ago

So the bicep and tricep of birds, let's just use chickens since most people will be familiar with them, are mostly responsible for in flight control.

That's the drumette. The flat, the one with two bones, are for controlling the very tip of the wing, for maneuvering. Notably these muscles are kinda big compared to the body size of the bird. About 6 inches around. If a human were the size of a chicken our biceps would be something like an inch around in comparison.

For liftoff, and staying aloft, birds have slightly different muscle groups. This is the breast meat. Bird chest muscles are ridiculously huge compared to their bodies. They don't really have abs, the have chest muscles down their entire torso. Chickens are kind of mutants and aren't really good examples anymore but birds universally have absolutely BADONKERS chests.

Basically what I'm saying is: If Pit were drawn by Rob Liefeld, he'd be closer to obtaining flight.

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

yeah i think they're just kind of magical little wings that make pit able to float or something

Fun fact I found out recently, we figured out how bumble bees fly sometime in the past decade.

In short, at that scale the laws of aerodynamics as we know them break down and the bees are basically swimming in air instead of flying.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 72 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I would be so afraid to snap a feather when undressing

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would guess that if you had wings with feathers you'd be intimately knowledgeable on the tensile strength of them

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You would think but tell that to the number of times I break a nail doing routine shit

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago
[–] bastion@feddit.nl 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who has wings (particularly if you have.. ehhem. adult-sized wings) knows this is impractical, and it's way better to just use snaps or buttons.

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would guess that a culture built by &/or for winged people would have more strapless stuff. Or from the chest over the shoulders and tied up behind the neck. Or otherwise designed to not interfere and/or interact with the wings.

[–] bastion@feddit.nl 1 points 16 hours ago
[–] Oka@sopuli.xyz 46 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Wings wound not "slide out" so easily when taking off the top. They only slide one direction.

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Most important, wings of the span necessary to carry a 40-50 kg person wouldn’t fit inside the arm holes of a tank top, or work with this technique.

[–] bufalo1973@europe.pub 19 points 5 days ago

If we are getting realistic, a pair of wings is always accompanied by a very big pair of chest muscles. Imagine a human with pectorals in proportion to the body as a dove.

[–] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

With the marvel of modern engineering, they do pretty compact wings able to carry 80kg humans, https://youtu.be/ilx8Ch0eOR4 (Sorry for sharing marketing video)

So in a fantasy world, you could imagine so compact wing part of human body

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yeah dog, that's still an 8 m wingspan with an area of 14 m², those are some biiiiiiig wings.

https://dudek.eu/en/produkt/runfly-2/

[–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 2 points 4 days ago

>1999€

Damn.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 5 days ago

You don’t slide them out, silly you roll the shirt up, and take it off inside out.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So, they need a shoehorn like device the cover the wings and allow sliding?

[–] Ageroth@reddthat.com 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is keeping the shirt from flipping inside out a requirement for some reason?
I imagine it would be more like lift the bottom front of the shirt over the top of your head and tuck behind neck so that full chest is exposed, fold arms in to insert hand through arm hole on same side as that arm and then push arms forward to leave shirt hanging off wings, reach behind while leaning back to grab and pull shirt off wings downward in direction of feathers.
Either that or how my wife takes off her bras that don't have clasps, push shoulder straps over and down arms, lift arms out so only chest band is holding on, then push the whole thing down chest and over hips and step out of it. That way it doesn't have to go up and over the breasts.

push the whole thing down chest and over hips and step out of it

Huh. Does she don it by stepping into it, or does her entire body pass through the bra with each don-doff cycle?

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There is a haibane renmei reference here somewhere

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[–] vxcvbzn@ttrpg.network 3 points 4 days ago

My character circumnavigates the issue by snipping the shoulders of his tank top open, sliding it on from the legs, and then reattaching the shoulders with mending.

[–] a_random_fox@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 5 days ago

Here is the source: https://www.tumblr.com/ask-crow-aus/759912849861754880/slytherin-assassin-lattemonstr-aishishiii . It is one reblog further down, as slytherin-assassin deactivated their blog and lattemonstr apparently has no post on their blog, probably deleted when they moved on to a different blog.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago