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Google has been trying to make Android proprietary for a few years now, and that's not news, as many AOSP default apps have been abandoned over time in favor of proprietary Google ones. This was never a huge problem for me, as you can still use those apps without network access or use open source alternatives like Fossify on a custom ROM.

However, the situation is quickly getting worse, now that Google is actively trying to prevent the development of custom ROMs and taking a page from Apple's book by forcing developers to beg them for permission to release apps on the Android platform, even outside of the Play Store - giving Google full control.

Is there still any hope left for privacy respecting Android ROMs? What do you think will happen next? And what would be your suggestions for those looking for a phone in 2025?

If you have a different perspective on the situation, also please comment below!

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[–] who@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

Related: Has anyone here used Pretty Good Phone Privacy (PGPP)?

https://invisv.com/pgpp/

https://www.usenix.org/system/files/sec21-schmitt.pdf

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've always wanted to try one of these.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

yeah i can see this kinda thing becoming the resistance by the looks of it. i'm already wondering to myself if it could be practical to use something like this with postmarket or aosp.

i wonder if i could make it thinner and more ergonomic if i desoldered unused io.

[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (16 children)

What about a Murena phone such as the Fairphone 6 ? Is /e/os impacted?

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[–] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm not gonna go looking for it or share it, but I am here using my Librem 5 and kinda feeling like that kid in the meme hitting a bong in the background while people in the foreground fight.

[–] monovergent@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How much does the Librem 5 satisfy what you want out of a daily driver phone?

[–] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I am satisfied with it. Calls/SMS/MMS all work fine. Internet and the few apps I use work fine.

I will admit though that many (most?) others might not agree. Banking apps, GPS navigation, these are things I don't care about.

I have gripes with the L5 but I am never, ever going back. My next phone will probably be Purism's next phone, if they have one.

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[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's no hope for privacy at all as long as American and the 5 eyes exist.

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[–] graymess@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope so. But I'm gonna be real grumpy about it when I can't tap to pay for shit anymore because all of the standardized payment apps will only work on signed Google and Apple devices.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought tap to pay was already restricted like that

[–] graymess@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

It is, but I'm fine with using stock Samsung in exchange for near complete control of my own device. They take away side loading and I'm out of here.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

I'm afraid not.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is America. We don’t do privacy and consumer rights. You will freely give all your data to a tech company where you are the product up for sale.

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[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] Renohren@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That was then, now they are very pro FANGS and removing all barriers because they are afraid of tariffs and want the US to keep selling them weapons for Ukraine.

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[–] upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Yes. As long as GrapheneOS still exists there is at least some hope. The sad thing is even before this outside of GrapheneOS there really isn't any other "ROM" actually focused on privacy.

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[–] majster@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

I'll be going with Fairphone 6 + /e/os as my next phone most likely. Seems like a very decent path forward.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

No, not really I suppose

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