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I made the terms into a list and then I alphabetized it. I hate Politico. It's an actively annoying site.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/08/22/can-dems-talk-their-way-out-of-the-wilderness-00519379

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[–] regul@hexbear.net 78 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Dems again failing to see the forest for the trees. It's not their language people find objectionable, it's that they use this language and do fucking nothing to make it seem like they understand why this language has been elevated.

For example, if you ran on a platform of making housing an entitlement, and had a clear vision for reaching that goal, no one would give a shit if you said "houseless person" instead of "homeless person". Hell, if you got everyone in this country housed I don't think anyone would be too mad what you called them.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly. They could just say what they mean and if they meant something effectual they could actually do some good for a food insecure person. But of course effectual dem is an oxymoron so on and so forth.

[–] semioticbreakdown@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

classic they're clearly incapable of doing so at this point. Also telling that stakeholders is a word they suggest not using. Don't wanna scare off porky!

[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The term “stakeholders” upsets their core constituency: vampires

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Stakeholders usually refers to the people affected by capitalists, not the capitalists themselves. Like the people who don't have water because of a data center or fracking. It is then used to muddle the water between people employed by a business and people negatively affected.

[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

I think the "stakeholder" thing is about its metaphorical usage: about people not necessarily holding ownership stock in something but people being interested in something.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 3 weeks ago

"Weaponized incompetence” comes to mind.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 54 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

So obviously Third Way is evil in general and this list is evil specifically, but the idea of blacklisting the phrases "food insecurity" and "housing insecurity" is such a baffling, ludicrous assertion, way beyond the bargain bin chud shit that a lot of this is.

Also, "stakeholder" blacklisted? What??? So not only can we not talk about the consequences of capitalism, we can't even describe a formal classification of relationships capitalists have to companies using a word that any economist or journalist would use?

Are we not allowed to call a CEO a CEO anymore because it will be taken as a death threat? luigi-dance

So much for the tolerant right, always censoring us.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also, "stakeholder" blacklisted? What??? So not only can we not talk about the consequences of capitalism, we can't even describe a formal classification of relationships capitalists have to companies using a word that any economist or journalist would use?

IIRC stakeholder the way they use it is a fairly new propaganda term (less than 6 years old, I'd say) which is meant to be distinct from shareholders. "Stakeholder capitalism" was another buzzword for a while, where stakeholders are like the people in a community being poisoned by runoff and pollution from the poison factory.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Stakeholders are different from shareholders, but it's still a regular term in economics:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stakeholder.asp

Specifically, stakeholder is a supercategory of shareholder. If they meant just the "activist" language, then they could specify like they do with "violence" later, but looking at the article it seems they offer no such specification. It's perfectly possible that these "Third Way" authors are such fools that they forgot it's a new use of an existing term that their corporate overlords hold dear, though.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

they definitely just want to banish the idea that communities and government regulators have stakes in private projects, because that implies they should be able to have a say

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 52 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Several of these are the kind of rhetorical substitutes we got in lieu of any systemic change.

Liberals: “Yeah we might not be able to give you real support but we can give you lip service. Wait, hang on, guess we can’t do the lip service anymore.”

Meanwhile chuds hooting and hollering over this kind of shit because they believe in what is probably best described as a stupid kind of magic and believe these words are imbued with confusing and terrifying energies.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

stupid kind of magic and believe these words are imbued with confusing and terrifying energies.

I never thought of it quite that way. But now that you've mentioned it - they really do seem to think that their dog whistle words are highly negative sympathetic magic. In other words if a liberal says "DEI" enough times - a black person might suddenly appear in the chud's all-white workplace.

[–] semioticbreakdown@hexbear.net 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

HAHA vulgar and reactionary tailism as always! I expect nothing less from Third Way. Oh btw if you think this is fucked up you are engaging in purity politics and you are the reason fascism is winning

“The Democratic Party brand is toxic across the country at this point with way too many people — enough that there’s no way for us to win a governing majority without changing that,” Erickson said. “Part of the problem was that we were using words that literally no normal people used — that we were sticking to messages that were so overly scripted that they basically sounded like nothing.”

People are going to correctly identify that your messages of justice are vapid if you do exactly nothing to actually meaningfully change things for the better and stymie any real efforts to that effect

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

enough that there’s no way for us to win a governing majority without changing that

I hate that this is the biggest clue in this thread as to which party is being discussed. This is indistinguishable from your average chuds in the current admin except that they actually win by doing this stuff

[–] AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“We are doing our best to get Democrats to talk like normal people and stop talking like they’re leading a seminar at Antioch,” says Matt Bennett, Third Way’s executive vice president of public affairs.

The reason they don't sound like normal human beings isn't that they're using precise and academic languages to describe the condition of minorities, you dimwitted animal. They aren't proper human beings, so they can't talk properly.

As I write that, I know this removed knows this is hermeneutical injustice. They don't want marginalised groups to have the terms to describe their oppression. The sad part is how many of those marginalised actually bought into their relatively short-lived theatre of giving a shit.

[–] DerEwigeAtheist@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They are all mass murderes, having each starved and sent people to die on the streets. And they refuse to acknowledge that, or can't.

[–] AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

After the last Usian election, I've come to believe that democrats are very much living in an alternate universe, especially if they spend enough time in DC. Between the blood on their hands, the consultants, charities etc where they are and their own astroturfing, they couldn't live in reality if they wanted to.

[–] DerEwigeAtheist@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

You have to be. Imagine what being at the head of something of the US empire has to be like.

It's like the adage of how being a billionaire is a cognitive impairment similar to being repeatedly kicked in the head by a horse.

Their material reality shapes peoples thinking. These people do not live in the same world as us.

[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 38 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

calling your think tank third way is a bit on the nose

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

"i-am-adolf-hitler" — Adolf Hitler

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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, on one hand I can sympathize with ideas like learning to de-jargon our language when speaking with non-leftists.

But not in a tailism way, because these pains are almost intuitive to anyone who has ever faced any discrimination…like ever. I never heard of the phrase “reserve army of labor” but I’ve been muscled out of the job market and struggled with getting jobs even before I learned what that term was.

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

Insert Big Bill Haywood quote

[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 3 weeks ago

if gavin newsom says the n word enough times maybe he'll be able to steal all the voters from david duke in 2028

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

i can think of a word that we shouldn't use: "mercy".

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

And "excuses for the terror"

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Once again taking the wrong message. Yet Repubs roll back rights and both parties committ genocide and that is NEVER described as toxic. Smithsonian will remove history of slavery and soon history will be seen as toxic language because too many americans suck off an anti reality doomsday cult

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[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

existential threat

if we just don't mention them they'll go away! genius solution!

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago

My favorite moment from the presidential debate was Harris saying, "I believe climate change is an existential threat" and then almost immediately afterward talking going on about how awesome she thinks fracking is.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Tankie suspiciously absent from this list

[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I am sure they won’t give up using it. They are banning meaningful words

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The only way they will ever punch is left

[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

I guess that’s what they’re there for. Placating and denouncing.

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[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 weeks ago

Oh cool, reminds me when in Germany’s last general election the only “progressive”, “leftist” party, Die Linke, told its deputies not to address issues such as migration, because it’s too risky. Well…

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

The overton window shifted outside of itself galaxy-brain

[–] THEPH0NECOMPANY@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

Looks like they are starting to read the room, and in usual lib shit they read the wrong lesson.

They realized that when you run a progressive except for Palestine stance, you look like a massive hypocritical piece of shit and everyone can tell your full of shit. So they dropped the progressive part and kept the pro genocide stance.

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

Can't say cis. What is this, x dot com the everything app?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

I'm so glad the resistance is here to fight fascism (and not in that dirty violent foreign way)

[–] ComRed2@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

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[–] WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

allyship

BIPOC

birthing person

body shaming

cisgender

cultural appropriation

deadnaming

dialoguing

existential threat to [the climate, democracy, economy]

food insecurity

heteronormative

holding space

housing insecurity

incarcerated people

involuntary confinement

LGBTQIA+

microaggression

othering

Overton window

patriarchy

person who immigrated

privilege

radical transparency

stakeholders

subverting norms

systems of oppression

the unhoused

triggering

violence (as in "environmental violence")

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

🫡 extremely based, comrade

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[–] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why didn't they add "blacklist" to the blacklist?

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

blacklist is ok because it shibboleths them away from those of us who moved away from whitelist/blacklist for what i hope are incredibly obvious reasons.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Block Book of Communism

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There are a handful of terms that seem like a good idea to ban in official communication because they're likely to derail the message due to being prone to misunderstanding (birthing person, holding space, dialoguing, stakeholders, othering, etc.) but this list is just a means to allow the Dems to cease pretending to be progressive.

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