How pathetic is it to still be slavaing your ukrainis this hard in the year of our lord 2025, especially right after your lord and savior got scolded like a schoolboy in front of billions of people

I need all of you to PRAY FOR my CARROTS to COME OUT RIGHT

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[–] dogerwaul@hexbear.net 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i know it's common to hate on Zelensky and our ungodly amount of funding of Ukraine but the Ukranian people are being invaded, killed, and forced to assimilate by an authoritarian fascist dictator. they should have our financial support. honestly, they should have it from the world as a whole. but it has become clear that this is a pet issue for the US with ulterior motives and is done at the expense of suffering Americans. we spend billions to provide Ukraine protection against their aggressor, yet we won't spend a dime to protect Americans from domestic aggressors like predatory health insurance companies, real estate giants, and corporate oligarchs. we could be investing in universal healthcare, free housing, and ensuring of strong labor rights with jobs that pay above a minimum living. nahhh.. here, Ukraine, take all of our money instead!!!

i'm fucking tired of it. it is unethical to continue to fund Ukraine with all we've provided thus far when we are unwilling to take care of our own people as well. additionally, very few Americans are aware of the struggles of people living in countries with abhorrent conditions plagued by wars and sexual violence and poverty. it's only the countries that America has put a spotlight on. it just makes everything regarding our funding of Ukraine feel gross and shitty.

idk, i hate this. it's conflicting and depressing lol.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I see where you’re coming from, but Ukraine aid is not, in any way, causing or affecting poverty in the US. It’s not going to change anything if US stops funding Ukraine. Actually, if the resource deals go through and America completes the conversion of Ukraine into an informal colony, it will benefit the US (arguably even the working class) at the severe expense of the Ukrainian people.

The US started funding Ukraine in the self-interest of the US. The US will cease funding Ukraine in the self-interest of the US. The entire process has benefited the US; the change of circumstances and the reflexive change in US attitude toward Ukraine has never included conditions of the lower classes in the US and definitely not that of the Ukrainians.

There needs to be peace in Ukraine. But the time for Ukraine to negotiate a fair peace deal was 3 years ago; their only option at the moment, if one exists at all, is to mitigate the severity of their losses in whatever deal comes out of this. And at least until recently, they were still planning not to budge on anything and fight to the last Ukrainian.

Ben Norton just posted today about this, and he breaks down the situation nicely

[–] dogerwaul@hexbear.net 0 points 7 months ago

sorry, my implication wasn't that Ukrainian aid was causing or affecting poverty but merely that the money could've gone towards Americans here. billions are needed here so every dollar truly counts. also, "fighting to the last Ukrainian" is their people's right. they can resist by any means necessary.