How pathetic is it to still be slavaing your ukrainis this hard in the year of our lord 2025, especially right after your lord and savior got scolded like a schoolboy in front of billions of people

I need all of you to PRAY FOR my CARROTS to COME OUT RIGHT

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[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I see where you’re coming from, but Ukraine aid is not, in any way, causing or affecting poverty in the US. It’s not going to change anything if US stops funding Ukraine. Actually, if the resource deals go through and America completes the conversion of Ukraine into an informal colony, it will benefit the US (arguably even the working class) at the severe expense of the Ukrainian people.

The US started funding Ukraine in the self-interest of the US. The US will cease funding Ukraine in the self-interest of the US. The entire process has benefited the US; the change of circumstances and the reflexive change in US attitude toward Ukraine has never included conditions of the lower classes in the US and definitely not that of the Ukrainians.

There needs to be peace in Ukraine. But the time for Ukraine to negotiate a fair peace deal was 3 years ago; their only option at the moment, if one exists at all, is to mitigate the severity of their losses in whatever deal comes out of this. And at least until recently, they were still planning not to budge on anything and fight to the last Ukrainian.

Ben Norton just posted today about this, and he breaks down the situation nicely

[–] dogerwaul@hexbear.net 0 points 7 months ago

sorry, my implication wasn't that Ukrainian aid was causing or affecting poverty but merely that the money could've gone towards Americans here. billions are needed here so every dollar truly counts. also, "fighting to the last Ukrainian" is their people's right. they can resist by any means necessary.