this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2025
160 points (100.0% liked)

Games

41805 readers
1174 users here now

Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.

Rules

1. Submissions have to be related to games

Video games, tabletop, or otherwise. Posts not related to games will be deleted.

This community is focused on games, of all kinds. Any news item or discussion should be related to gaming in some way.

2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil

No bigotry, hardline stance. Try not to get too heated when entering into a discussion or debate.

We are here to talk and discuss about one of our passions, not fight or be exposed to hate. Posts or responses that are hateful will be deleted to keep the atmosphere good. If repeatedly violated, not only will the comment be deleted but a ban will be handed out as well. We judge each case individually.

3. No excessive self-promotion

Try to keep it to 10% self-promotion / 90% other stuff in your post history.

This is to prevent people from posting for the sole purpose of promoting their own website or social media account.

4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts

This community is mostly for discussion and news. Remember to search for the thing you're submitting before posting to see if it's already been posted.

We want to keep the quality of posts high. Therefore, memes, funny videos, low-effort posts and reposts are not allowed. We prohibit giveaways because we cannot be sure that the person holding the giveaway will actually do what they promise.

5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW

Make sure to mark your stuff or it may be removed.

No one wants to be spoiled. Therefore, always mark spoilers. Similarly mark NSFW, in case anyone is browsing in a public space or at work.

6. No linking to piracy

Don't share it here, there are other places to find it. Discussion of piracy is fine.

We don't want us moderators or the admins of lemmy.world to get in trouble for linking to piracy. Therefore, any link to piracy will be removed. Discussion of it is of course allowed.

Authorized Regular Threads

Related communities

PM a mod to add your own

Video games

Generic

Help and suggestions

By platform

By type

By games

Language specific

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I know I'm late to the party but I just found out and didn't find a post regarding this

TL;DR: Steam now calculates review scores based on reviews made on your languages only (if enough). This is on by default, but can be reverted to go back to review scores based on all reviews (from people that purchased the game directly on Steam only)

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Stern@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Good for stuff like Chinese review bombing.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I feel like it's also a way to limit review bombing, like what happened for recent games regarding privacy policy changes

I'm not a fan of it

EDIT: Did you change your comment? I think it wasn't like this, because my answer doesn't make sense

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

https://www.thegamer.com/wuchang-fallen-feathers-review-bomb-censorship-update-changes-patch/

Could be from stuff akin to this. This is the second bombing of Wuchang, first was post-launch due to UE5 spec demands

[–] Malix@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

...were those reviews from some specific languages?

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I believe they often start in english only. This might limit the impact for non-english speakers

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

What if I actually want to see the review bombing and it's effect before buying the product ?

Really, the more I think about this change, the less convincing it is. It will hide review bombing of games that might have warn you of something.. I think it will just muddy and make the Steam score way harder to assess and use.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 5 points 5 days ago

I personally like seeing review bombing as well, it was always relevant to me, despite what Steam says

[–] Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Steam already marked review bombing as off-topic before, which don't factor into the score by default, and you have to specifically select to see them.

You can disable this language filter, along with the off-topic filter (you should be able to disable them separately though, which you can't currently).

[–] Nelots@piefed.zip 2 points 5 days ago

It's worth adding that you can disable this filter permanently. It's not a thing you temporarily disable while you're on a specific game's store page; if you disable it, it disables it for every game until you turn it back on. So that's nice.

It's definitely because of that.

[–] Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I like it, but currently I see two possible improvements, that I hope get added down the line.

First, being able to give a list of languages you want to factor into the score, so it's not just your current Steam language.

Second, I'd like the toggle to disable the language filter and off-topic review filter to be separate.

Both are pretty minor for me, since I think the default settings are fine, but giving people more options is better.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

First, being able to give a list of languages you want to factor into the score, so it’s not just your current Steam language.

I think it currently chooses the languages you've allowed to see for reviews if I remember correctly, or the game languages you allowed to see

[–] Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

As far as I can tell, it just uses whatever language you use Steam in. If that language doesn't have enough reviews, it defaults to all languages.

I also just tried and set German as a secondary language, but it still just shows the score for English reviews. It doesn't even mention German at the bottom of the page, where you get the summary, only all languages and English (and recent). If I change the language for the store, it also changes the source for the review score.

The actual reviews at the bottom of the page (Most Helpful and Recent) are pulled from the languages you've allowed, so I now see English and German reviews (and a Korean one, but maybe that user just uses Steam in English, but posted the review in Korean?).

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So they're not actually checking the review for the language used. So they must be storing a tag with the review as to what language that reviewers steam is set to. I can see problems with this right there, a lot of people will have steam in whatever their desired language is, say German, but will post reviews in English. It seems like these reviews won't be taken into account because they'll be incorrectly tagged as German.

The thing you're describing definitely happens. Just did a quick check with Steam in German and every game had a few reviews in English (just checking the preview of Most Helpful and Most Recent at the bottom of the store page). Other languages are more affected, like Swedish, where most of the reviews are in English.

I don't really see a good solution to this. If Steam is able to correctly detect the language and only show your native one, most of the time you'll probably end up with a handful of reviews, and then Steam has to show you something else (probably English) anyway. I think currently it's good enough, since you still get the perspective of someone from (probably) your regional or cultural background, even if the language might not fit.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Perfect for reviews like “Game is great, visuals are great, no bugs, it’s very fun, but the developer was not polite enough to the glorious Chinese Communist Party, and was a week late on providing a Chinese translation. Never support these xenophobes.”

God I wish I was exaggerating. Chinese gamers seem to have a huge victim complex.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah.

That’s the vibe I get from Lemmygrad too, like they assume the rest of the world is constantly pondering how much they hate China, as a dominating thought.

It’s bizarre, and I am by no means generalizing Chinese people either. Some researchers I’ve interacted with (which is pretty much my only other exposure to China) are not like that at all.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago

They really don't seem to understand that for most of the world we don't care about China one way or the other. Much in the same way as I don't really think about Argentina. It's out there somewhere, but other than acknowledging its existence I don't really care.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

lemmy.ml, blahaj.zone, lemmygrad, hexbear..

And the entire rest of lemmy is full of people crying about AI or cryptocurrency

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I don't seem to have this problem as much. That said, I didn't on Reddit either. Maybe it is because my feeds are mostly science, weird maps, and things discovered on lemmy.nsfw.

[–] Nelots@piefed.zip 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Tbh I very rarely see anyone mention cryptocurrency. I guess if it's brought up I'll see someone complain about it, but it's almost never brought up in the first place. Especially compared to AI which is talked about as often as politics.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 5 days ago

Doesn’t make it less annoying

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I kinda hope they also weight reviews based in hours in the game. If ten people with 1000 hours I'm a fame recommend and 1000 people with <10 hours don't recommend, I really hope the score is better than 50%.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 12 points 4 days ago

Well maybe they stopped playing the game because they didn't like it? I don't continue to play games I dislike

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What is „my language“? Because depending on where the game is from this changes. Have they thought of that? Because I know from experience that US companies cannot comprehend speaking more than one language.

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Its the language set for your client UI I wager.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean yeah and that‘s very unfortunate. Users need more control over these things. This is as rushed as Youtube‘s automatic translation slop. Most people speak more than one language. When will Americans learn that?

load more comments
view more: next ›