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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 61 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Most jobs include some element of unpaid work.

No, "most" jobs don't. But, the ones that do, are wrong too.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 weeks ago

And these days, I consider commuting to be unpaid work if the job function doesn’t require you to be in a particular location.

[–] asg101@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

Capitalism is BASED on unpaid work. The real value workers create is always only partially compensated, the difference is "profit".

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 55 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It sounds barbaric, if you don’t stop to think about it for more than a second. Most jobs include some element of unpaid work. Teachers prepare lessons ahead of class. Nurses stay late to finish charting or prepare medications. Why, even journalists put in hours off the clock, transcribing interviews or travelling for a story.

Oh fuck off. Is there a reason you can't count it in the contract and put figures on it? Oh right, because then despite your bullshit figures it'd turn out the numbers don't actually favour you.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Fuck right off, indeed. Unpaid work is barbaric, no matter the profession. No way nurses are working unpaid; they get overtime for that. I had several skilled teachers who through careful planning made certain they weren’t working off the clock. Etc.

Yeah … they worked unpaid too. Not at the same rate but statistics show that women’s work relies heavily on some form of unpaid labor

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Teachers prepare lesson plans ahead of class

Teachers are unfortunately salary exempt in turn for being paid during the summer, so this doesn’t equate

Nurses stay late to finish charting…

They’re hourly and still on the clock getting paid

Journalists put in hours of the clock

Not familiar how their pay works

Regardless in every example it’s a non-sequitor as they are not doing an exempt knowledge worker job that would even remotely qualify them for unpaid overtime. If you’re gonna take that route then they need to be put on salary and adjusted accordingly

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ontario teachers aren’t paid during the summer. I don’t know about other provinces as our public education systems are different in each province.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

It’s a choice here. You’re on contract for a certain fixed rate. You can get it paid for the 9-10 months your working or divide it up over the full year.

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 weeks ago

Did... Air Canada ever have our hearts? Pretty sure not most of them...

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Andrew Coyne is, and always will be, a first class cunt.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago

For a while about 10 years ago I started reading the globe, the national post, and CBC, pretty much every day, and I honestly mostly liked Andrew Coyne. I didn't completely agree with him, but he made nuanced points, and came out pretty strongly against some of Harper's dumber moves.

This column is absolute hateful shite tho.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

What beautiful data. Overwhelming public support for the union and a big FU to the government intervention as well.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Unpaid work is slavery, full stop.

[–] slykethephoxenix@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Especially when being forced to work.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

If I was only getting paid while in the air, you bet your ass I would have been sitting on my ass doing nothing, plus reporting their asses if the company wasn't giving on call pay. I imagine this would get you fired for insubordination pretty quickly.