...and it was called NERO because it burnt ROM
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"CloneCD uses a logo of a sheep because at the time it was relevant, the biggest news in cloning research was Dolly the sheep."
Fun fact! The Laser in the burner didn't actually burn from thermal effects, and instead caused a chemical reaction using specific wavelengths of light to activate a substrate called pthalocyanine.
This is part of why you could burn "faster", although typically you had a higher quality burn at slower speeds as the change from one color to another via the chemical effects was more complete. This allowed weaker reading lenses to better perceive the new colors easier, and greatly increased compatibility.
I am very, very old.
"Floppy disks" were 8 inches a side in my youth and went in the minicomputer
Then along came Newfangled desktop PCs with their 5.25" floppies
Tom Bombadil remembers first acorn and first rain drop
I used those big floppy disks with some ancient hardware for running physics experiments during university in like 2015-ish, and I'm sure that exact floppy is still in use today. It's not even a small and underfunded university or anything.
Fun fact, in some countries the 3.5" floppies were called "stiffy disks". You know, because the outer casing was "stiff" as opposed to the floppy 5.25" disks. This discovery led to a lot of chuckling among the team I worked with when we opened a new product from one of those countries and read the manual. The instruction to "insert stiffy disk" still leads most of us to chuckling today.
As the owner of a CD burner so old there was no speed to note, and later upgraded to a 4x burner....
I'm also quite old it seems.
Edited to add: I bought it at a computer show. The kind that you showed up to in person and paid like $5 to get into. I also bought a used laser 128.
Nerd alert!
I am very, very old
Good job !
And thanks for the explanation.
Godamn that's cool
Godamn that's cool
Godamn that's cool.
Me explaining what "Insert Disk 2 of 5" means.
I downloaded a 1GB update on my phone today and it took a couple minutes. I spaced out remembering how fucking advanced it felt getting a x2 CD burner.
Then you try to do anything else with that PC while it's writing at 300 KBps and... buffer underrun. So many coasters.
I remember when some company started advertising "BURN-proof" CD-R drives and thinking that was a really dumb phrase, because literally nobody shortened "buffer underrun" to "BURN", and because, you know, "burning" was the entire point of a CD-R drive.
It worked though. Buffer underruns weren't a problem on the later generations of drives. I still never burned at max speed on those though. Felt like asking for trouble to burn a disc at 52x or whatever they maxed out at. At that point it was the difference between 1.5 minutes and 4 minutes or something like that. I was never in that big a rush.
The last CD-drive I had burned at 52x. I still remember how it sounded like a small jet engine spooling up when the burn started. Amazing how I always got bit perfect burns and how the discs didn't explode while spinning like a car turbocharger.
Maybe it's the one with multiple beams? Although I can see that for reading but not writing.
Meh, burning CDs... ever had to worry whether you'd parked your hard drive's heads before moving it, child..?
(To be fair, neither did I, probably; my earliest hard drive was already IDE, I believe, and those seem to have already had autopark, but the old lore was that you parked your hard drives before moving them, or the heads would scratch the surface, so park them we did.)
ever had to worry whether you’d parked your hard drive’s heads before moving it, child…?
Yes, also you parked it before shutting down the system every time. Once the hard drive was powered down, the heads would just crash into the platters. While not instantly fatal, it wasn't good for the drive. So, you'd park the drive before flipping the power switch.
Ever have a hard drive with the head stepper motor visible outside?
Not that I recall, no.
My first one was a 65MB (or was it 85MB?) 3.5'' parallel ATA one, and while the enclosure might have been shaped around the platter(s?) (could have been a later one, though) I don't recall the motor being distinguishable.
Whole machine (my first PC proper) was a 286, 16MHz with turbo on, possibly 1024KB of RAM (I recall setting up autoexec.bat to ask me if I needed extended or expanded memory on boot, but could've been in a later machine; pretty certain the memory was on socketed DIPs on the mainboard, not SIMMs, in any case, so it can't have been much, and 640KB was supposed to be enough, anyway), CGA, 5.25'' and possibly 3.5'' floppy drive, DOS... 4.something, I believe.
Good times.
I had to explain what a CD was to my kids the other day because I saw a CD-ROM mirror and decided to get one. We didn't even cover what "burning" one was.
Alcohol 120% and Daemon Tools
CDRWIN creating bad discs if you used a pirated key.
"The 'burn' part is like what the climate change does, which you are familiar with.
The 'CD' part is like your brain, where the 'burn' causes microplastics to melt in a pattern that stores data."
"Now kids, can anyone tell me why the historians often say 'CDs nutz'?"
::Tiny precocious little scamp raises hand::
"Was that an off shoot of the philosopher Welvin's posit on the 'got eem' principle?"
Nero times
What I miss most is burning .cue
files with hidden tracks; you just don’t get the same high from streaming services.
This is like Technology Connections having to explain what an MP3 CD is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkIR23emsWY
I had a program that came with special CD Labels for the printer where you could make your own cool CD label covers. that was fun.
Or going into a Dreamcast IRC channel to download games and burn them to disk. I think I only ever actually bought like 2 Dreamcast games, Shenmue and Seaman, the rest were just burned to CD-Rs.
I was buying blank DVD's with printable surfaces, I had an epson inkjet with a tray that would print directly on the disk.
I would get a shipment of 4 DVD's from netflix, rip all 4, shrink them down below 4.7G, burn them, print a label on them and put them in a binder. and mail them back out for the next set of 4. The output looked shockingly good. I made it through a spindle or so before i moved on to tversity and stopped dealing with physical media.
It was so awesome when I bought a LightScribe dvd burner and could put various decorations on the dvd along with the content label. The novelty wore off quickly though.
Nah, I'd end up explaining why floppy discs weren't floppy, instead, and let the younger folks explain the CDs.
They were floppy though?
At least 8 inch, and 5.25 inch. 3.5 only on the inside (unless enough force is applied xD).
By 3.5" you ofc mean:
/s
Microwave
I'm going to tell (and show) my kids that's what "burning a CD" was
Still the best no frills digital audio medium.
Oh no, I just wrote a 1 kB file to the disk and can not add other files? what is this read-write bs?
mkisofs . | cdrecord -
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"We first had to venture miles deep into the woods to find a local Circuit City, which bountifully bore free trial AOL CDs like fruit. We then grabbed an armful, despite the protests of the clerk, and hastily returned to camp. We then had to build a fire by hand, with kindling and wood, and we donned our robes. As the fire grew, we meditated and chanted around the fire, as we mentally mounted the Serious Sam bootleg install files. It took weeks to and a several acres of wood to chant the correct order of ones and zeroes, so we had to work in teams and take shifts. When it was my turn, I took a CD and stuck it through a metal stick stuck into the fire. I spun the CD with my bare hands, blistered and swollen by fiery praying, and lowered it into the fire to burn the ones, and raised it slightly for the zeroes. Any error found by the final validation step would result in premature cremation by the group. There were not many of us left by the time we had the LAN party. A room full of Pentium 4 PCs made the room feel as hot as a furnace, but the pizzas were cold that day, little ones. So cold..."
@urheber@discuss.tchncs.de What happened to our youth?????
...and for a while it was fairly normal to refer to writing bootable USB sticks as "burning" as well.
Now I don't say that anymore because I don't want to sound like a boomer, or - worse - I don't want people to take me at my word or think I'm just plain mad.
“What’s a seedy?”