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Range anxiety is overblown. Electric vehicle owners only use 13 percent of their battery capacity a day, on average. (insideevs.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/electricvehicles@slrpnk.net

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[–] tunetardis@piefed.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I've never owned an EV but have been casually considering what it would entail. Like would I really need level 2 charging at home? I'm sort of thinking not at this point. The commute for me or my wife would be something in the 20 km round trip range. We don't live in a big city. Errands could increase that somewhat. But if let's say the charger could add back even 5 km/hr, which I think is a pretty conservative estimate. That should be plenty to handle our needs with overnight charging on 120V.

As for intercity, well, you'd likely be using some public fast charger right? So that's kind of a moot point as far as what you need at home.

I don't know if I'm missing something though in this analysis? Like I've heard winter driving affects range fairly considerably. And that's unfortunately also the time I'd be more tempted to drive over riding the e-bike everywhere. But even so, I doubt I'd ever exhaust the battery in my home town?

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[–] timeghost@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Every car owner has a delusion that one terrible day a very bad thing will happen and they will drive 400 miles away from it and be saved.

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I have an ice maker at home. Most days I use maybe 5 ice cubes total to make a cold drink.

However, if my ice maker could only hold 5 ice cubes max at a time, I would consider it a shitty ice maker and would be looking for a new one.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Article says 13% of capacity is normal. That's like your ice tray holds 35 but sometimes you have a party and have to buy cubes at the store.

Everyone shouts at you for not having ice on tap that costs them five times as much to make as your ice tray and is still more expensive than store ice, all because sometimes you have go to the shop.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think you're understanding the analogy, or at least there's some fallacy in the way you're applying it.

I would be perfectly fine with one that holds 35 cubes since I only use about 13% of that per day. That doesn't mean I will accept arguments that my ice tray should hold LESS than 35 cubes, which is what this article is trying to do with the range of electric vehicles.

Just because I'm not using the maximum amount every day, does not mean I want the maximum lowered. Again, if I had an ice maker that could only hold 5 ice cubes, while it would technically fulfil my needs most days, it would still be a shitty ice maker.

We aren't talking about "what if I had a large party?", just like we aren't talking about "what if I need to drive 1200 miles in a single day?". We're talking about "what if I have a single guest over?" or, in terms of the car, "what if I have a few extra errands to run?"

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What? No. They're not suggesting lowering it to 5 at all. No one thinks the maximum should be set at the average (apart from a credit card company that I quit, but that's another story).

The article is saying that most people who insist on a 35 cube tray tend to use about 5 cubes daily and some of them just don't need the 35 and might be absolutely fine with a 20 cube or even a 15 cube tray.

Let's put it back in miles. The study found:

350-375 mile EVs: 11.3% of range used daily

Which is about 50 miles.

What "few extra errands" do you have that cause you to drive hundreds of miles? That's not an errand, it's a road trip.

Personally I drive round trips of 30 miles a day and 80 on Saturdays. Several times a year, we go further and then I stop every couple of hours to charge for 25 minutes or something. I'd rather stop every three hours, but it's worth it for the convenience and economy of home charging and the joy of driving I get.

If you go on more road trips than we do, you probably want a bigger range, but my humble family car 150 mile EV is more fun to drive than any other vehicle I've driven, including an overpowered automatic BMW that was lovely but not nearly as much fun.

I'm not ever going back to boring sluggish driving, spongy acceleration and annoying commuting and all those endless endless visits to petrol stations.

The cheap petrol station is a ten minute drive from my house. Filling takes a few minutes. My diesel had more range and I could eke it out to a fortnight, but the petrol one was every week. People expect me to be upset about stopping for 25 minutes and messing with my phone, going to the loo, eating a bit of food every couple of hours, ten times a year, but I used to go to the petrol station every week! I don't miss it AT ALL.

I spend hours and hours in my EV every week. It's genuinely fun to drive. The odd visit to the motorway service station is no biggie. I love my EV. I tried it for the curiosity, and love it for the driving experience

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