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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

So you don't think he's serious this 18th time??

Fuck the Kremlin.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can't stand all this posturing in bad faith

[–] TwinkleToes@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Find it helpful to remember this is all noise-making frmo an increasingly irrelevant US administration. Trump always overplays his hand and imagines he has more leverage than he actually does, because he's an idiot. But that's for another post.

Ukraine hasn't REALLY pushed itself to existential levels yet, haven't drafted 18-25 year olds, and can probably resist Russia for many more years just on European support, for whom the issue isn't some petty political jagoff to play for the rubes at home. For Europe - while they havent re-armed as fast as they should have before or after the war, they at least intellectually understand this isn't a game. Stop Russia now, or they WILL be on your doorstep next. Ukraine may or may not be getting stronger - but Russia certainly isn't. If they were, they wouldn't be asking for peace, even on ludicrous terms.

Russia is, through it's proxies, asking to be given something for a ceasefire. If they could be doing better on the battlefield, they would, full stop. The goal was always complete conquest. That ship has sailed, right to the bottom of the Black Sea, and now they want something in return to pause their indiscriminate butchery. The fact that they are the ones tabling even ludicrous peace narratives is a positive thing to anyone pro-Ukraine. It means Russia knows they can't win. There will be many sad days up to and after a ceasefire - but while it is a massive tragedy - Ukraine endures, and has survived.

Now watch the tankies' chest thumping replies.