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Gotta hand it to the fossil fuels industry, they got what they wanted and their propaganda worked.

And now Americans have a janky grid, slower / more expensive transportation, and bigger power bills.

Turns out stubborn contrarianism and anti-science bias are not viable philosophical foundations for progress; what a surprise.

renowned expert in Chinese technology and founder of the media company Tech Buzz China, [Rui Ma]

Is the person they’re talking about who is “stunned” at how super double awesome China is at powering AI.

Ffffffffffffffuck this.

The race to have the magic box that tells you lies that you want to hear while also consuming incredible amounts of resources...why is this a race again?

Yeah. Kind of amazing that for all of their America first bullshit rhetoric, Republicans have consistently and routinely neglected our infrastructure to focus time and money on gays, immigrants, and giving out blowies to billionaires

Conservatism is collapsing into irrelevance as a long term commitment.

I don't really give a shit about the AI race and I genuinely hope that we lose it, because I feel like being a winner in that "industry" is inherently unsustainable.

The AI hype is so infuriatingly frustrating.

AI is not the panacea they're making it out to be. This article is attempting to influence readers to support American AI business models to 'complete' with China. Except that AI doesn't make my job easier and is very bad for the environment.

The first country to adopt LLMs for everything is the one that will collapse first. This is a race where the winners never start and at best stop before they reach the end.

Don’t worry. They’ll just ask AI about the grid and it will tell them how great it is.

Edit: or it’ll say FEED ME MORE!

Good, fuck the AI industry, we can’t even go to the doctor over here

That level of cushion is unthinkable in the United States, where regional grids

Yeah, capitalism will resolve everything by being greedy. Electricity is not and will never be a merchandise. It's a basic human need and a natural state monopoly.

can't use power to make everyone use electric cars need power for "AI"

Nice job you jabroonies you did it you lost everything. This is the slow descent of America and it the boomers fault.

My father in law is convinced theres some guy in a garage that's gonna invent the next big invention, but hey guess what it takes MONEY that regular joe schmoes dont have!!

So, a few months ago China launched Deepseek and the narrative on US media was all "the fact they didn't have access to the latest Nvidia GPUs forced them to get creative and develop a model that is more efficient and cheaper".

Now the US is getting behind on "AI wars" because China has more energy for huge data centers?

How about the US get creative and develop LLMs that are actually useful and can work without sucking Gigafucks of electricity?

enough talk already i wish the us empire would just hurry up and actually collapse.

AFAIK in USA it is pretty common to build the power infra structure as part of the AI data-centers that need it.
This has already been pretty common for normal data-centers for years.
USA never really had good public service infra structure for it. While for instance in Denmark many companies build data-centers because Denmark both has good infrastructure, and also can supply data-centers with relatively cheap energy from renewable sources, without the company having to foot a giant bill to invest in that too.

The American model is of course inferior, but it's not like it doesn't work at all, it just makes it more expensive.
On the other hand, in USA they can bribe White House, and do almost whatever the fuck they want. That is NOT an option in China, where it can result in a literal death penalty for the CEO if tried!

we considered attacking you, but couldn't think of a way to ruín anything worse than you already had. Every idea we came up with, you had already done, but worse. I spent two years writing software to take down the grid in texas, and another two getting it into your systems. Then you just did it all manually, and some nazi asshole shot the infected substation until it blew up a month later! Fuck you, i liked this job. I went to college for this shit. You have ruined me. What the fuck am i gonna do now?

-some chinese saboteur

The race was over in 2021-2022 when every model that uses the only algorithmic approach we have hit a wall when they ran out of training data.

It does not matter how much power we dump into these, it has quickly diminishing results.

Everything China has us cooked in every sector