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WHY AM I EVEN AWARE OF ONE OF YOUR (NOT EVEN) MAYORS?? WAS RATBOY NOT ENOUGH??
The most pro-Palestinian candidate in American history on the cover of Time magazine
Oh gosh, what a tragedy, I can't stand the taste of victory and the explosive normalization of our politics, give me back my delicious bitter cup of defeat 
unfortunate what he said on colbert. but he's running for mayor so it seems kinda weird that it comes up at all
bad take but okay
he's fine. He's not starting the revolution, but he's fine.
Idek what "falling for it" is supposed to entail
"Leftists" are giddy with glee at the thought of "i told you so"ing each other to the point that they leap to post actual right wing takes about the guy, really makes you think hnnmm
again OP the real morons are the people who watched this guy win a primary, watched the bourgeoisie shit themselves, and fall for the most obvious propaganda imaginable. Oh no he stood next to Elizabeth warren, that means he's literally her! 🙄
how hard is it to wait until this guy beats cuomo and the Republican and actually does Literally Anything in office before you go OHHH WELP I GUESS HE WAS A LIBERAL
those "falling for it" = the large number of (well-intentioned) socialists who are now saying "wow we need to do Mamdani style campaigns everywhere!" and insisting that organisations that could be doing better work with their manpower throw themselves into stupid electoralism because of this
and of course we can't ignore that his politics might breathe new life into a Democratic party that was looking to be on its last legs
basically it's not particularly good to have socialist organising be redirected towards electoralism as the primary field of political struggle, and the hyper-focus on Mamdani and candidates like him achieves that. if he was a candidate running under the name of an actual independent party which could hold him to certain lines and not just have him end up being a new flavour of Democrat, that would be different.
Zohran Mamdani represents something in political energy and discourse that socialists would be foolish to write off as bourgeois electoralism. It's possible to engage with that energy to productive ends, even without believing that his tactics are ultimately going to be successful.
As socialists, it's our duty to understand every twist and turn of the history of struggle in our country. Like it or not, Zohran Mamdani is now a relevant part of that history.
Zohrans victory doesnt invalidate third party bids, if anything it encourages them by giving them a successful template that can defeat DNC fuckery
and of course we can't ignore that his politics might breathe new life into a Democratic party that was looking to be on its last legs
The Democratic Party is still as unpopular as ever so that's not true, instead Zohran has caused an explosion of DSA and PSL membership and most importantly of all he is normalizing pro-Palestinian sentiment and proving once and for all that pro-Palestinian candidates can win and win big, THAT and that alone justifies the "hyper focus" we should have for Zohran, he's a newly divergent tributary that can one day transform into its own river
Otherwise the anti-electoral brigade needs to justify why it's actaully a good thing for Socialist development that pro-Palestine candidates lose to centrist dems
Uh oh, did popular ideas turn from quantitative into qualitative and produce a platform and a candidate that aims to embody those popular ideas? In the largest city in the country? Now spilling out into Minneapolis? Better get big fucking mad about it!
You'd think they'd save their "I told you so"s until after he gets elected and ends up being another do nothing politician, but they seem really determined to make sure that people who are trying to do something are Doing Things The Wrong Way, while not actively working towards the One True Correct Way to Do Things.
This is a positive for the left, if he is actually left wing and actively helps build a leftist base in the US, that is fantastic, if not (which I think is more likely) then leftists have a great point of agitation, and can point out the problems with trying to work within the system vs challenging it directly. This is a win/win situation for people, as long as they go outside and actually talk to people, even for those of us in other countries who hear about him, it's still useful for agitprop, because like it or not, US news is constantly being broadcast everywhere else.
One of the net results of the failure of the Bernie Sanders campaign was the radicalization of his base. It radicalized his base in both directions, and you can trace the history of some people's right-wing and left-wing growth to the collapse of his campaign. His campaign brought a critique to the masses that really hadn't existed for more than a generation. You can see the sentiment growing with the frequency of crises. 9/11 and the War in Iraq, the 2008 housing crisis, the rise and fall of Sanders, the Trump presidency, COVID, the fully botched and bungled Democratic Party presidential campaign coupled with Palestine, on top of another Trump presidency. Each crisis is like breaking a pinata full of minds looking for answers and ideologues scrambling to scoop them up and provide those answers. People who were not "political" before Mamdani will become "political" because of Mamdani. The people working in his campaign (nearly 30,000 canvassers alone) will be exposed to organizing, become political agents, and will likely adopt some of his perspective or maybe join the DSA. From my reading, the campaign made the bar extremely low for people who wanted to participate, allowing for people to give as much or as little time as they could, on their own schedule. These are valuable lessons to be learned from his early success. Most of his canvassers are young, early to mid-20s, and Sanders failure was 9 years ago. The people energized by Mamdani (who was 26 when the Sanders campaign fell apart) could develop similarly to Mamdani but at a more accelerated pace, given the existing development already; these are objectively good things; this is the result of these qualitative changes.
(NOT EVEN) MAYORS??
Yeah, he’s not mayor yet. Which means there’s no mayoral policies (or lack thereof) to critique right now. This is all handwringing over horse race stuff and reading way too much into “Zohran had a chat with this person.”
Well, actually, there are policies you could evaluate him on. He was, still is, a state assembly member. Yet these critiques never seem to get into that.
Anything done offline is either liberalism or adventurism. Posting online is the only true way of doing things.
Whether or not a bunch of online people who don't live in NYC should verbally support a NYC mayoral candidate is possibly the weirdest 
yet.
He's not even corbyn but he wants to do good things and it's pissing off libs and chuds. Libs and chuds are the ones who made it a global phenomenon to the point that Israeli organisations went out and denounced him in multiple ways.
Just don't engage with it if you don't want to. 
This is at least your second time complaining about Mamdani a propos of nothing in less than 24 hours.
"The meaning" is that economic populist messages are really popular with most Americans, and really scary for American elites. That's it. That's the entire meaning.
I think the real meaning is that he is a CIA plant designed to cause Hexbear struggle sessions.
Why is Hexbear so weird about Mamdani?
Can’t you all just take the W for once?
Twitter brain says it's necessary to go in for the dunk and put down a bad take (even if it's your own comrades)
It's true, Mamdani's tenure as mayor has been a massive disappointment!
WHY AM I EVEN AWARE OF ONE OF YOUR (NOT EVEN) MAYORS?? WAS RATBOY NOT ENOUGH??
Yeah because NYC and middle amerikkka nowhere town used to prop up a CIA cardboard cutout of a man are totally the same thing and you've definitely never heard of any other NYC mayor before this
Giuliani? Who's that? Bloomberg? Never heard of him
Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit, I'm not over here throwing a shit fit because I know who the mayor of London is
OP you're about to get brow-beaten by the half of this website that still believes running candidates under the Democratic banner is a productive use of socialist time and energy, in the year 2025. You're going to get called an ultra and a patsoc all at once by these people who apparently learned nothing from the past several election cycles in America.
You're going to get called an ultra and a patsoc
Huh? When has this happened?
I've seen plenty of disagreement with the folks who think any participation in electoralism is pointless but I've never seen the response be either of those things lol
by these people
This is... Needlessly rude and divisive? Highly uncomradely? You're clearly drawing a divisive line between yourself and others.
I support participation in electoralism as a platform to spread socialist ideas. Do I think electoralism will bring about socialism? No. But not participating in it puts you at odds with Lenin so you're gonna have to have a stronger justification than some name slinging or inventing scenarios that haven't happened here.
https://hexbear.net/comment/6389886 this thread specifically is where I was called an ultra and also told to join the ACP for criticising Mamdani
This is... Needlessly rude and divisive? Highly uncomradely?
if you can't even be intransigiently argumentative on the offshoot forum for the chapotraphouse subreddit these days then the internet really is a waste of time
I just think "you people" and "these people" have something to them that are... I don't know. I find them really nasty phrases personally but can't really describe why. Someone might know what I mean though.
It's a very othering way to talk about people, talking about "those people" as if they were A) a monolith and B) different from "our people" and by implication are bad or negative in some way.
I would give revolut the benefit of the doubt at this point, I don't think they were trying to imply horrible things about people, probably just a poor choice of words.
Why do you keep acting like there is some tank of socialist time and energy that we could all be using to do revolution but someone is slurping it all up? From what the adults in the room have been saying in every single Mamdani struggle session, he's a DSA project. Most think the DSA is an ineffective joke and wouldn't be caught dead joining or working with them. It's not our tank of socialist energy. It's their time and energy they're choosing, through supposed democratic choice, to spend.
It's either not socialist energy because DSA aren't real socialists or it is socialist energy but not yours to quarterback because you're unwilling to join the democratic decision on how to spend it.
There is absolutely no energy in someone on a web forum saying "I support Mamdani" Voicing support is a magic incantation. It doesn't do anything. It's a prayer. People on a forum can voice support for whatever but if they're not doing anything to make it happen then it's meaningless. It's not a drain of socialist time and energy. Prayers for liberals aren't stealing energy from real socialists.
if you waste one single minute posting on the internet about how Mamdani is the best use of your vote, that's a whole 10 minutes that could have been used loading your AK and making pipe bombs to distribute to the homeless. i am the one true leftist!
Ok chapo.chat, let me ask you a question. What
The Answer: 
Oh hey its the "5 Horsemen of Rob Ashlar-style posting" person that bickered with zposter last month
Mamdani rivals or surpasses Sidney Sweeney in terms of how effective bait posts about them are.
Mamdani will be an entertaining test of the DSA, at minimum. The right wing of DSA is ascendant with his win in the primary and their very silly convention votes align with it. The right wing of the DSA's approach to electoralism is to run anyone willing snd endorse and campaign for anyone that asks, with zero discipline. So if Mamdani is not, as a single person, very disciplined himself and building up a private security force, he will disappoint and there will be internal struggle.