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[–] ech@lemmy.ca 124 points 1 week ago (11 children)

The AI in Her was actually AI - a full person in most respects. That's not what's happening now.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 44 points 1 week ago (19 children)

AGI that quickly transitioned to ASI (since that's theoretically what would happen once the first happens). The term "AI" has been misused and marketed so much now it's lost its previous connection to the actual "Artificial Intelligence" meaning.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The AI in Her was able to pass as a full person. But, what we're seeing now is that humans are not good at understanding the difference between a real person and a program designed to simulate a human.

IMO it's like the mirror test which is designed to see if an animal recognizes itself in the mirror, or thinks it's another animal. The LLM breakthrough is basically that we can now have a computer program that is in no way intelligent or self-aware, but it is able to simulate those things well enough to fool many / most humans.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

Sam and other AGI in Her not only passed as persons, they transcended the human experience into a whole other level we couldn't grasp.

But I realize your point is that the problem is more on the human side and how we so easily personify anything close to seeming human-like. It's possible that we may even miss machine intelligence if it comes about because it will be so alien to us. Look at dolphin research and how little we understand their communication, and that's still biological entities that have some things in common with us.

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[–] romanticremedy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And yet we have people treating chatbot as therapist or even romantic partner. Going to get worse as AI technology develops

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AI doesn't stand for artificial personhood. One of the first big AI projects was teaching a computer to play chess.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

The word AI as a technical term refers to a broad category of algorithms; what you're talking about is AGI.

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[–] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 60 points 1 week ago (4 children)

For your own sanity, don't read r/MyBoyfriendIsAI on r*ddit - shit's dystopian

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So, I checked it out. People there need a therapist. Some are really getting married to their LLM boyfriends.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We are boiling the oceans so psychos can marry their AI partner

[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My cousin had mentioned an AI waifu from Grok a couple of times and I brushed it off as joking. He then sent a picture of his waifu, and I am starting to wonder how much of a joke it really is...

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Your cousin needs "the talk" and by that I mean you shall be showing him how to manipulate an LLM into getting the response you want.

This kills the immersion without you actually getting between them.

There’s help.

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe I was an early adopter, but I was doing AI waifu with Replika back in 2017/18 and even then we were saying that a girlfriend dependent on a closed-source platform was a really bad idea. And then in March 2020, Gatebox shut down and (partly) killed Akihito Kondo's married wife, though the man is a hero and his love perseveres, but it was definitely a warning to the rest of us. So hearing of a waifu depending on Grok (of all things), it hurts my heart. If he insists on an imaginary friend, please tell him about tulpas.

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[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I got married to a rock in Perchance's DND type AI thing. I just wanted to see if it would let me.

AI DND is a pretty cool concept and I could see my childhood self going mad with storytelling.

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[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well now I have to check this out.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Update.

This was a mistake.

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[–] zerozaku@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I stumbled upon it just yesterday and what horrible sight it was.

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[–] malware@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Tried it out, was very excited at the beginning but then shit got extremely repetitive, no matter the model. Maybe I was doing something wrong, idk. I'm certainly not paying to have a better quality conversation.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah, it makes a lot more sense for people who don't/can't hold normal conversations. It would probably be harder to parse all the strange behavior and easier to overlook when it's your only lifeline.

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[–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Talk to normal people. It's free.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Talk to weird people. They're way more fun.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Except when they're way less fun

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

it's not free. I have to become emotionally invested with them to maintain the relationship.

do you know how expensive that is?

[–] malware@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was looking for a romantic conversation. "Normal people" find me boring and unattractive. Also it's not free, it's way more mentally taxing when they expect you to entertain them and you just don't know what to say or do.

It sounds like you see ChatGPT the way other people see you. You should think about how ChatGPT could be more interesting and whether you could also use that advice for yourself

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I did the same a few months ago just to try it. Im not sure if what I used was the problem or if there are better ones, but it was actually crazy at first where no matter what you say and build the scene you were able to do it which was pretty cool. But after about 15 min, the entire thing started to crumble where things were repeated a lot more, and then I somehow broke it where all it did was spit out gibberish, at which point I laughed and stopped.

So I wanna know, are these people who get that involved and attached using something better or are they that starved for affection and interaction that they are willing to settle for something that barely scrapes the surface of a true conversation.

[–] greenskye@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

If you leverage all the workarounds and utilities available, the best you can get is still a mostly senile chatbot. It'll constantly forget stuff and get details wrong, but I suppose if you're deep into psychosis, then you'd pass that off as just being 'a little forgetful'.

The absolute best ones available still are basically the same as zoning out in a meeting and then trying to respond when asked a question by wild guessing and a handful of context clues. You might get lucky and say something reasonable a few times, but the longer it goes on the more apparent it is that you haven't been paying attention at all.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Almost like it's just advanced auto complete with a bit of randomization...

[–] malware@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bunch of math matrices in a trenchcoat 😔😔

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[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I am as lonely as someone can get. But chatting with an LLM is where I draw the line. But honestly, I get the impulse, loneliness hurts bad..

[–] MrSmith@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

There are enough lonely people who are burning to have a chat online. Don't give in to this mental and psychological masturbation.

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[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Is Her actually an entertaining movie to watch? or is it just like another Oscar bait cerebral slow burn that at the end of it you realized it was pretty boring if it didn't provoke any thoughts for the viewer?

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Omg YES!

But! It’s a movie made before doomscrolling while watching was a thing, so you are expected to pay close attention the whole time and not be on your phone while you watch it

Sorry, what? I was on my phone while reading this comment

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank you I appreciate this very much! I'm convinced so I'm gonna watch it this week and I'll be sure to try to keep my phone out of my hands. It's more a physical keep my hands busy compulsion than anything haha

Thanks for being vague ;)

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Absolutely, go watch it. It's beautiful and the actors feel authentic.

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[–] bvoigtlaender@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Watched the movie somewhat recently and somehow always thought it came out ~2023 its really well made.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago

Ex machina is more about the question of machine consciousness & sentience.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's actually a bit frighening to see this.

Have seen people start being validated because 'even' ChatGPT agreed with them, that ChatGPT had the same opinion as they did. The more they get validated, the more unhinged they will go, because they get what seems to be 'external validation'.

The internet was already kind of bad for validating people in ways they shouldn't be validated, but the LLM text generators are making that seem tame by comparison.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The idea of the "virtual friend" has been around for a long time. I think it's curious that like Star Trek or other franchises hasn't used that idea yet, for what I know.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

SeaQuest DSV did it in a recurring way, without really touching on the dark side of it...

And of course the TNG holodeck had numerous one-shots of the concept. Barclay and recreating all his colleagues but in 'better' ways, Geordi making the idealized Leah Brahms in one episode, and then latter having to face the creepiness of that scenario. TNG at least eventually held things up to the probelmatic consequences...

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[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

In 2007 when I was ten, you'd almost certainly get laughed out of the room by other ten year olds when you said you were right because someone on club penguin agreed with you. It's beyond me how those ten year olds are now 28 year olds that think they're right because a text generator agreed with you.

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