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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/33746300
The worst thing about Linux is its users
No, well guy is right. Trusting capitalists to leave money and power on the table for ideals is naive at best.
It's also pretty easy these days.
Who "won't" switch to Linux? Emigrating to Linux is just not as simple as these people believe.
Some of us have our entire lives on Windows that will take forever to migrate with all the obligations and the crushing weight of work that we have to handle in our day to day life.
How society would thrive if we had true freedom.
It's not moving to a different city or country lol. Upload what you need to a cloud and put linux on a usb and install. If this takes you longer than a week.... Then idk.
Only those apps that aren't linux compatible is a pain the ass
For a lemmy user it would probably take a night, like 4 hours
For people who don't know how to choose a boot drive it will take longer than a week to get the computer to where they had their windows machine, and probably like 20-30 hrs of work.
I mean, tbf, your other option is a violent takeover of the Microsoft corporation, complete with rifles and grenades and stuff, so like, by comparison "fucking install mint or fedora ffs" sounds a lot easier.
I mean yee I agree "microstof should just stop asshole," but good fucking luck with that..
Finally, someone is starting to get a hint of what needs to happen with all those monopolies.
"I wish I wish upon a star for a multi billion dollar monopoly to self-regulate"
About 15 years ago I gave Linux a try, liked it and showed it to my wife who is less technical than me. She said she found it nicer than windows so I put it in the common computer and never looked back.
You can find as many excuses not to use Linux as I can give you reasons and solutions to try it... at the end of the day, try it, don't try it, it's your decision and you get to live with the consequences of those decisions. Me evangelizing about Linux is just as painful as hearing Window users complain about it yet unwilling to do anything but whine about it
If you do give it a try and have an issue, there are plenty places to get help for Linux better than the MS forums, this is undeniable.
Also, notice Windows is like bumper cars while Linux is like the entire vehicle fleet of the world, you want to drive a tank, you got it... wanna drive a super car, got it... wanna drive a hot air balloon that moves on good wishes, Linux has one distro just like that... you probably should not learn to drive in a Ferrari when you are late for work, choose a beginner friendly distro and move on from there at your pace if you feel like it
This. To many people who "just want to use" a computer, the OS in the background won't make much of a difference, but linux makes it easier for the one maintaining it.
Thereβs barely anything you βneedβ Windows for anymore. Especially as something like 99% of most peopleβs PC usage is web (including cloud-hosted Office type apps).
You say this, but you haven't met all the programs I have to use for work.
The solution to this is to organize with your coworkers and seize the means of production, and then vote to use only Free, Libre, and Open Source Software from now on. Easy peasy.
I work in IT support, the options for good, and Foss software on the technician side of most RMM tools.... Vanishing small, if any.
There's a lot of platforms that support monitoring and management on the client side, but when it comes to technician side tools, GFL. Most vendors don't even mention it at all, fewer support anything other than Windows. FOSS isn't concerned about the IT support folks because almost all FOSS is made by people who can build their own computer and don't need support.
That's why the NSA classifies Linux Journal readers as extremists.
I mean, at this point if you aren't already on a list you are probably a bad person.
I am the smug well guy in this picture. You can complain and whine about Microsoft's shitty practices to people who have no way of effecting them..oooorr you can use a different OS. Kind of a "better to light a candle than to curse the darkness" deal.
As someone who considers themselves a "Linux-evangelist" and has run it exclusively on my devices for years, I really despise that the goto method for recruiting others is to shit on other OSs and claim that Linux beats them all. Whilst you're not wrong and all your arguments are true, nobody wants to listen to that.
The most succesful campaigns I have seen has been to gently introduce people to Linux and let them play around with it. Alot of people really just liked it, but where more open to adopt since they arrived at the conclusion on their own, instead of being force-fed it.
Software and games.
No matter some people claims, there are always software/games that simply won't run on Linux or no alternative available.
I mean, there are only ~~two~~ three realistic options (four if you are that one BSD user):
Either you use Windows and let Microsoft spy on you (or rely on unbloating scripts which might eventually break your OS and not even block all Microsoft spyware in the first place);
You buy overpriced Mac computer, that might also spy on you, who knows;
You use Linux.
Apple does spy on you, but unlike Google and Microsoft, they donβt sell your data.
But you still have to decide if you trust them with your info
Linux is the way to go* if you absolutely want to avoid any kind of spyware
*be mindful of the distro you choose. Some do have telemetry
Apple does spy on you, but unlike Google and Microsoft, they donβt sell your data.
They are an American company though, so who knows how secure their data really is if a rich person decides they really want access.
The artificial superiority of linux users is the main barrier to creating more linux users
I donβt know how to feel about this. Because the intelligent guy is totally me, but I also recognise that Linux is in no shape for a non tech literate person just to jump into.
You could install Mint on your mother's computer and don't tell her, and she'd probably still think she was using Windows until it came time to install new software. Linux For Normies has come a long way, especially recently. It could be ready for mass adoption very soon, if not already.
I agree. My mom has been running Mint for 9 years with no problems. My tech illiterate friend who has an nvidia gpu on the other hand needs a lot of handholding. He would never be able to make a transition on his own.
I don't want Linus Torvald spying on me through my computer, either! /s
My first genie wish is for the EU to declare Windows 7 public domain and set up a team to maintain security and driver updates for it.
What about instead working on react OS? (Not made in react)
I should move but I just haven't found a good time to uproot my main pc and have an extended period of downtime. I'm not really using windows exclusive stuff anymore.
I would switch to Linux in a heartbeat if it ran all the programs I use. And yes, I know about wine, but it's still not all there yet. Thankfully there are more and more programs I use that now run natively in Linux, so I still have hope.
if it ran all the programs I use
Got ya fam: don't use the programs that don't run on linux. UR WELCOME
My producer had used Linux for almost 5 years by now (on the 20th of this month), and I had used it for just around the same amount of time (shorter than him).
This is way truer than you think in my opinion....
you can literally just switch on most cases though.
Fair enough, but most solutions to restrict data gathering by windows are often worked around by Microsoft via eventual windows updates which is a perpetual risk. In my experience, using Linux is less of a headache in the long run.
Everybody wants to complain about how bad things suck, and then just shrug and keep living with it.
Seriously, it sucks that Microsoft is an evil corporation spying on all Windows users. Nothing will change unless people start coming up with and using alternatives. This isn't some fairytale where government regulation works in our favor, either. The only vote we have that matters to corporations is the choice to give them our money and data.
Linux has a learning curve, and there are some things that are frustrating at first. None of those things are more frustrating than having your personal computer ruled by the robber baron Bill Gates. Just my two cents. I am very intelligent.
I am not particularly intelligent, nor particularly knowledgeable on the details on how OSes and kernels work. And I'm comfortably using Linux. One more reason why more people should.
But I agree that it would be very nice if legislation was finally passed to prohibit that spyware bullcrap most of the big players have trying to force down our throats.