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[–] mfdoom@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

if you dont defrost it first you will most likely over cook the outside while the middle will be frozen or undercooked. potentially dangerous for chicken.

pro tip for fast defrosting? cut it up in smaller pieces, while its frozen. this gives each piece a greater surface area, meaning it will defrost and cook much faster. in this case, baking would be slowest option, i would chop into cubes and pan fry.

whip up a slice of nice verse pie.

[–] ElderReflections@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I use an old cpu cooler to effectively increase the surface area without cutting, works a treat

[–] AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But how much heatsink? Pea sized is surely a bit small for a whole chicken. Maybe egg sized?

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[–] SoonaPaana@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Potentially" dangerous for the chicken? Isn't the chicken usually dead by this point? 😅

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not in this house, but you do you.

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[–] Kanzar@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Defrost in fridge, no other safe way to do it.

I cook from frozen all the time, but I use a sous vide stick in a cooler box (keeps the water insulated so less heat loss), then finish in the air fryer.

EDIT: ITT people who clearly win the lottery every time they buy a ticket

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, other than microwaving it, or cooking it from frozen, or thawing it in water.

Just don't sit it on a counter in open air for 8 hours to thaw and you'll be fine.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

2 hours max in the danger zone. More than that will get people sick.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_ZOD_RUNES@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No you won't. This whole defrost conversation always bothers the hell out of me because people leave out a very important factor. Will the defrosted item be consumed right away or will it be cooked first?

Cooking it kills the bacteria that would've came about during defrosting in the "danger zone". I'm not saying you can leave it on the counter for a week but it's not as bad as a lot of people on the internet make it sound.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Wait what? Do you not know why this is a food safety issue?

Bacteria like to grow. Do you know what cooking does? Yep! It kills the bacteria. Here's the thing though...as the bacteria are growing before we kill them, they are all making waste products.

Do you know what cooking does NOT destroy? Yup, bacterial waste products.

Think of it like this. When certain bacteria grow, they make a poison as a byproduct. For our purposes, pretend the byproduct is bleach.

What happens when you put a living being in a 200 degree oven? It dies. What happens when you put bleach in a 200 degree oven? Maybe it will turn into vapor...idk...but once it cools and recondenses, it's still going to be bleach.

Some cases of food poisoning are due to colonization by live bacteria, but other cases of food poisoning are due to bacterial waste chemicals/byproducts, even if all of the pathogens are killed.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

There's a difference between food or meat that had been refrigerated and then was sat out and allowed to return to room temperature as compared to meat that is frozen and is allowed to de-thaw for a few hours.

The ice inside of the meat will keep the overall meat cool enough that bacteria will not grow on it for a while.

I have been thawing meat for over a decade and sitting some meat out in a bowl or on a plate and allowing it to thaw for two or three hours has never gotten anybody sick from my cooking.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

See my comment under yours.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

LOL, I throw my meat (wrapped) on the hood of the pickup and let it cook in the summer sun for a couple of hours. Always astonishes me at what people deem unsafe. Some y'all would starve to death within 2-weeks if teleported to the middle ages.

My wife wraps the dinner leftovers, leaves it on the table, we eat it for lunch, or sometimes dinner the next day. And here come the rebuttals:

YOU WILL DIE!

We haven't had a single tummy ache.

YOU WILL DIE!

Lived like this our whole lives, into middle age. No tummy aches.

YOU WILL DIE EVENTUALLY!

Got me there.

Most of y'all would be horrified at how we lived Hurricane Ivan. Buddy brought a 5g bucket of meat over. No electricity, no refrigeration. We cooked everything to hell and back, ate the seafood that evening, munched on the beef and chicken for 3 days after.

I suspect everyone took a health or food prep class and decided any meat left under 140°F for X minutes instantly and magically turns to poison. Now I'm going to go all anti-vaxer: I hAve aN ImmUnE SySTem!

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the health and safety standards are for a commercial kitchen, and are wildly conservative. I'd follow those standards if I was serving food for someone else. But, I'd also take the "expired" leftovers home and eat for a few more days.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The people who throw away leftovers after a day or two (or refuse to eat leftovers) are insane. They’re the same ones who won’t drink a bottle of water after its “expiration date”. Smell the thing. If it’s gross, get rid of it. Otherwise, it’s fine. I mean damn, people.

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[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

I had consistent results with my instantpot/pressure cooker when cooking from frozen. The breast was always cooked thoroughly and tender.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You can cook it however you want as long as it gets to 160F. I sous vide frozen chicken all the time. I bet you could roast it at low temp just fine. Or just defrost it in the microwave.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How long would you say, do i flip it? What do you say about the other response saying absolutely not to do that?

[–] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Honestly I have no idea. Maybe like 20 minutes at 325F? Buy a cheap meat thermometer.

No harm can come of it as long as you cook it to temp. It might not be very good, but it won't make you sick.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe like 20 minutes at 325F?

This 1,000% will not work (assuming it's a cutlet / thighs or something). This is not enough for even a defrosted chicken breast.

There are ways you can do it, other people have commented some approaches (basically, cut it up, if you want it to work). But (a) it's unsafe without a meat thermometer (b) it will probably be a failure unless you're pretty skilled. Definitely don't just throw it in at 325, the most likely outcome is that you'll have to leave it way longer than 20 minutes, and then give up once it's getting dried and awful around the outside, and have to take it out anyway and slice it up and fry it or something, because the inside is still raw.

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

You can defrost quickly with the microwave.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago
[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. About twice the cooking time as thawed. Check that it's cooked before you eat it though.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same temperature, just double time?

[–] GhostPain@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

If you are intent on doing this, get a meat thermometer to confirm internal temp of at least 165F.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Microwave defrost function. Usually there is one for poultry and it will assign a time based on the weight you enter.

Every time it beeps mid cycle, dump the water from the plate and flip the meat.

This works for all frozen goods, but some veggies do not survive this process and get all mushy.

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You would have to chop it up into manageable pieces, somehow, while it's frozen. Then bake or fry or whatever.

Basically make your own chicken nuggets, which are designed to be baked from frozen.

Then the problem becomes cutting solid chicken into slices or strips or bite size cubes. Not sure how to do that reliably or safely

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I find it amazing they never revealed their identity and it will forever remain a mystery.

[–] sevan@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

You can pressure cook frozen chicken in an instant pot.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Absolutely don't bake frozen chicken

You can defrost it in the microwave, they usually have a "defrost" setting with some different options which may take 5-10 minutes. It's a little less optimal than waiting, but it's fine. Definitely don't bake it frozen.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I dont have a microwave, just a toaster oven or an actual oven

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

😬

If it was me, I would just throw it in the fridge and find something else, and eat it tomorrow. If you have a meat thermometer you can try to make it work with low heat, or there are other ways to cook it that work fine (maybe thaw in cold water and then cut it to strips and sort of stir-fry it for example), but I think the 1-2 times I tried something like this I was not happy with the result.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Cut it while it's at least a little bit frozen. Much easier to cut that way.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Run it under lukewarm water from the faucet. A tiny stream will do. It'll thaw in 30minish. Certainly quicker than just shoving it in the oven as is

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