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[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 85 points 1 month ago (3 children)

change.org is worthless call the CC companies directly

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

People are doing that too, there was just an article posted a bit ago talking about that.

Causing multi hour waits with the goal of hurting them by delaying actual customers getting help

ETA

Found the post https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/520460

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 15 points 1 month ago

I am an actual customer and these are real complaints.

[–] Awkwardparticle@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

I believe jamming up the new customer lines does more damage. It destroys their quotas and blocks new revenue.

[–] Electric_Druid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Change.org is a for profit company with no government attachment what so ever. Signing a pettition there is only handing dipshit capitalists your personal info to sell.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Because change.org will keep relentlessly spamming you and selling your info for years and years and years regardless of opt-outs.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago

Imagine if you could do 2 separate 5-minute tasks to pressure giant corporations.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

ACLU is legit enough for me to believe this petition is worth signing.

https://action.aclu.org/petition/mastercard-sex-work-work-end-your-unjust-policy

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's just a change.org petition though, in the end it doesn't have much power to it. Even if it gets to 1mil. signatures, Mastercard and Visa could just go "Alright, use another payment processor then"

[–] Electric_Druid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And if they say that, then we will indeed switch where we're able. Simple as

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Think I saw another user suggest amex? Idk what it is, but maybe look into that?

[–] Electric_Druid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure that's American Express.

[–] Electric_Druid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Someone who isn't Visa or MasterCard, like Discover or American Express. I myself will be getting a Discover card if this doesn't resolve soon, and have said as much to Visa.

[–] shani66@ani.social 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Remember, that's not enough. Call these demon companies yourself and your representative.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

100% a change.org petition makes news which is useful but won't otherwise do anything. What you need to do to back that up is cost Visa/Mastercard money, and the way to do that is to call them and tell their ethics teams that what they're doing is deeply wrong.

[–] essell@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Call the companies, yourself and your representative?

I couldn't get through to any of them 😟

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Seems like this petition is getting faster traction.

Someone write down “Stop Killing Porn Games” for the future.

[–] funkyfarmington@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago

This is not about porn. Period. Its about censorship and free speech. SMH.

[–] Lebensmittel@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't let PirateSoftware find out about this one

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Could you please provide context or a link?

I don’t like him, but I think it has to do with him being pro-killing games and pro-multi-million-dollar-company?

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Basically. He spoke out against the Stop Killing Games movement, saying it wouldn’t be feasible for companies to support games in perpetuity… Which wasn’t the point of SKG. But PirateSoftware has a massive following and has the classic reddit “if I sound well-informed and speak with confidence, it doesn’t matter if I’m correct” mentality. It was many people’s first time hearing about SKG, so the confident misinformation turned a lot of his followers away from the movement.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Sheeesh Talk about a brain washed guy who worked at blizzard

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

"rOaRs"

Give me a fucking break.

[–] hisao@ani.social 9 points 1 month ago

It's past 178k now.

[–] peetabix@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

So its games with 'mature content'....so is the Dark Souls and GTA series being removed?

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It would be nice if companies accepted regional payment options, for example, Canada has Interac e-transfer to easily transfer funds from one bank account to another, local businesses in Canada have offered this as an option for payment but anything international it’s either PayPal or CC.

Interac E-transfer is so simple to use and definitely beats having to use third-party apps like Venmo and CashApp.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most do, Steam accepts a fair few regional ones like the Dutch iDEAL. But it barely matters if a lot of people pay with Visa/MasterCard instead.

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you have to somehow enable them? There is a common standard for paying directly from your online bank here in Finland, but Steam doesn't seem to support it.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

Might depend on the market. The Finnish market is not even a third of the Dutch market, so perhaps it's just a business decision whether they support it or not. They do support iDEAL without needing to enable anything.

It makes no sense for any country to give American companies money for the pleasure of processing their own internal payments.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The activists trying to change MasterCard and visas policies dont want those companies to be influenced by activists?

[–] Electric_Druid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

We consumer activists don't want to have choice taken away by a comparatively small group who seems to be misrepresenting the issue and dictating the choices of consumers. The activism itself is not the problem.

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes you are so much smarter than everyone else.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 month ago

And if you kill the serial killer you become just like him!

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[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

PayPal just announced they’ll be offering crypto payments worldwide. They’ll be offering common wallet integration for 100+ currencies. This is how we sidestep Visa and Mastercard.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

PayPal is part of the problem though. They too have forced Patreon back in the day to clamp down on certain stuff. That's one of the reasons why SubscribeStar got bigger.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

That’s bad, but they aren’t part of this recent censorship. If you demand a perfect solution you will be disappointed. Let’s be pragmatic. Let’s force these companies to compete for our patronage.

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