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[–] oliver@lemmy.pifferi.io 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It‘s no brand thing. It‘s just a reaction on the way Ubisoft releases games these days and yes, the game could have been better but without the Star Wars-tag, it wouldn‘t have been noticed at all.

[–] lordveng@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Agree. I played the shit out of this game and it was good. But it could have been so much better. All the ships and weapons and planets in the star wars universe and we get 1 ship and 1 weapon and 4 meh planets. So many missed opportunities that could have made this game great.

  1. Remaster Kotor 1 or 2.
  2. Watch it sell like crazy.
  3. Never give ubi starwars licensing again.
[–] oliver@lemmy.pifferi.io 1 points 5 days ago

💯! Alone KOTOR 1 and 2 in a remastered version would be something worth dying for - never stop dreaming! 🙏🏻

[–] disco@lemdro.id 32 points 6 days ago

It's almost like if I'm constantly fed slop I avoid it

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

That's part of it for sure. It's grimdark. Read: boring.

Forever locked in a Jedi vs Sith binary. And it is the highest of heresy to dare imagine anything beyond it.

[–] Havoc8154@mander.xyz 3 points 5 days ago

How is Star Wars even remotely grimdark? That's just a wild criticism.

And the game you're talking about literally has no Jedi or Sith at all, it's entirely about the regular people of the galaxy.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

The worst bit is reflecting on how the first movie portrayed it all.

A horrific empire, but a secret mysterious force, not believed in by many, that can help you fight it. Classic warriors using heavy swords in an age of laser rifles.

I don't even really know what the message around the force was in The Last Jedi. I didn't even bother watching Force Awakens.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Only a Sith deals with absolutes!

[–] Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Couldn’t care less about the games.

Couldn’t care less about the shows.

If a movie comes out, even a terrible one, I’ll be there.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Andor is the best thing the series has ever done, including every movie.

And the animated Clone Wars series is a close second

This last season came out swinging with their wardrobe budget. The first 2 episodes I think we just kept talking about how much we liked outfits

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

All they have to do is get the same guys that did the trailers for KoTOR and they'd see very good things come out of it. They're just trying to milk it every way they can so that they can hold on to something now that they're losing all their OG IPs to public domain.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

You mean SWTOR rather than KOTOR?

[–] Therobohour@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No it's because it was shite,poorly written and lousy with weird polical shit and terrble gameplay.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

star wars is inherently a political franchise

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Difference between analogies to real or fictional politics.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

a new hope is world war 2 in space, down to the look of weapons, turrets on the millennium falcon and death star, and the name of the faceless bad guy army. and even after that, return of the jedi is the vietnam war in space. and even after that, the prequels are all about fascist america in space! you can have palpatine say something stupid and obviously evil and immediately cut to someone from the Bush administration saying literally the same thing.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

The original trilogy is all about Vietnam, or guerilla resistance to imperialism in general, weird take to call a New Hope WW2 but you got the spirit.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The way starfighter combat works is definitely WW2. There's some hand wavy explanations in-universe for why it works that way, but it clearly comes from WW2 fighter and bomber turret footage.

Politically, the empire is pretty clearly Nazi-coded, but I don't think Lucas ever had more than a surface level understanding of fascism.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Sure, but it's not about WW2 specifically in a way that would make Return about Vietnam instead like their comment implied. Anti-fascism in general, sure.

[–] Havoc8154@mander.xyz 1 points 5 days ago

It's both, people don't draw inspiration from just one thing. It's also Hidden Fortress, but that doesn't make the WW2 elements any less relevant. Star Wars is about the fight against fascism and imperialism in many forms.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 206 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

these arrogant assholes.

just like movies and TV, the waning interest in the franchise is only because you keep making shitty games with it.

If you people start making GOOD star wars stuff again, we WILL eat it up.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 137 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Andor is an example of excellent Star Wars content that people want to see. They just produced crap.

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[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah, like beating a dead horse, it has no giddy-up and go. What the hell were they thinking when they decided to do Star Wars Outlaws?

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[–] Liome@pawb.social 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There is waning interest in Star Wars franchise. And Assassin's Creed franchise. And Far Cry Franchise. Hmmm, there seems to be a pattern here...

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[–] enkonju@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought the game looked ok, but why would I pay $70 for a game that can disappear from my library whenever Ubisoft feels like it? They've demonstrated that they're willing to permanently take games away from paying customers, so I'm not willing to spend more than the cost of a rental on one of their games.

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[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 55 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not waning interest in Ubisoft?

Because, ooh boy, did my interest in Ubisoft wane year after year of overproduced cookie cutter crap. And I'm not expecting a change of phase.

Also, Guillemot, you're talking publicly a lot for someone with (now convicted) sexual harrasser friends you've protected all of your career.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Waning interest in Ubisoft. Everything they touch is painfully generic and uninteresting. On top of that, they infect the games with Denuvo malware while charging top dollar. But sure, blame the consumers for your lack of vision, passion, business sense, and technical acumen. See how that pays off, Yves.

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[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It just boggles my mind how execs can learn the wrong lesson 100% of the time. It seems impossible.

Regardless, they keep canning games like 1313 that get fans hyped and give us generic trash instead.

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[–] JakenVeina@midwest.social 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

A) And yet, not long after, Andor was massively successful.

B) Then stop making games exclusively based off of third party IPs.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 days ago

A) And yet, not long after, Andor was massively successful.

Andor was awesome in addition to being successful. It feels weird when those two things coincide.

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