They'll get a partnership with Ukraine who are much farther ahead, and will give them whatever they need. I think that Ukraine still needs Chinese PMCs, but I think that a supply chain for those isn't going to be a blocker.
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The US drone stock market is booming. It doesn't even matter if it's mostly graft. The US economy is fueled by falsified statistics and government spending. Robbing the poor to benefit the rich.
Edit: forgot about the worthless crypto. Allegedly Trump's net worth is mostly in crypto.
I don't think the US is even capable of setting up an industrial base to compete with China purely based on population size alone.
Even if you ignore the fact that they're terrible at actually building the businesses and factories needed for this, there simply are not enough labourers in the US to truly compete with China.
Like where the fuck are you getting the labourers for all the reindustrialisation the US is supposed to be doing? What industries are getting deleted in order to fill factories with workers?
The US Military doesn't need a more efficient pipeline that competes with the Chinese, as they can just pay for it.
lmfao yes the magic of finance will manifest away the real problems of labour using infinity magic
I completely agree, the whole notion that the US could spin up an industrial base comparable to China seems absolutely fantastical to me. The impression I get is that the oligarchs drank the AI koolaid, and they think that they're just going to jump straight to automated factories that run themselves.
The only way is to cannibalize the service economy and the bullshit jobs/finance industry. Service workers might go to factories if the pay is right but getting finance bros and other PMC jobs where the average worker thinks they're "above" something like factory work would require people with guns marching them out of their office buildings. Perhaps they could be dressed in all black jumpsuits.
And even if we did all that you would hit the inevitable wall of only having 1/3 the labor force to work with. Exploiting the third world counts for a lot but that equation is getting harder every year.
If the goal is greater total manufacturing output than China, yeah, that's pretty much impossible without a collapse of Chinese industry that we have no reason to think is coming. There's no reason that should be the goal for anyone but total cranks. Right now, China represents 29% of the world's industrial output while the US is 17%. With about four times the population, China doesn't even double US output. And that's just total population. China's manufacturing workforce is over 100 million. The US's is about 13 million. That means that the average US manufacturing laborer is achieving five times the industrial output of the average Chinese manufacturing laborer. The US may be 50 years into a general industrial decline, but it's falling from a peak of truly outrageous productivity and most industries have massively improved operational efficiency, offsetting a large portion of the labor base collapse. And obviously, the US is more capable of pursuing an autarkic economy than any country on earth given its staggering agricultural output and essentially infinite raw resources.
It's not hard to imagine how industrial policy even half as effective as China's would meaningfully shrink the manufacturing output gap. If we just returned to the light social democratic policies of the US midcentury, there could be a truly competitive industrial rivalry between the US and China. If you could implement a Chinese-style DOTP in the US today, the US would probably have significant advantages over the PRC.
Of course, the most important thing here is that these are not separate, competing industrial spheres but two closely interlinked and interdependent parts of the same system. US manufacturing is extremely dependent on Chinese inputs at all levels of the supply chain except basic industrial metals. China still relies on the US for a lot of the highest end technology, where the maturity of American tech and industry provides the extremely advanced inputs the PRC hasn't yet eclipsed the US in. 20 years ago, the dependency balance was far more in the US's favor, which has obviously flipped, but it's also not a one-way relationship.
So what would reindustrialization in the US actually look like? It would necessitate the defeat of neoliberalism either by revitalized social democracy or a proper DOTP, but either way it would be a mutual industrial dialectic, where each state works to build the capacity of the other in a friendly rivarly/cooperative competition, understanding that each country's individual success is boosted by and boosts in turn the other's. Cheap Chinese renewables would form the basis for a mass growth in American electrification. Chinese industrial capital would set up shop all over the US, ideally focusing in the areas most heavily damaged by deindustrialization (the rust belt). You'd see an inverse of the technology sharing that China got from the US during its industrialization, with Chinese industrial tech being replicated on US shores by US-Chinese company partnerships. You'd need to make major infrastructural improvements, especially in public transportation, in order to close the gap of unemployed workers and an explosion of open industrial jobs. Chinese expertise and industrial might could drive that. Chinese workers would need to fill many skill gaps in the US workforce while American education rights itself.
You'd end up with an extremely tightly-integrated cross-Pacific industry of staggering technical complexity and productive capacity. This would be the surest path to a lasting and mutually beneficial peace between the two countries. If the US working class were to carry out a revolution and establish a DOTP, this incredibly powerful industrial engine could become a global force for peace driven by each nation's central planning authorities recognizing their joint interest in further expanding that beyond their own borders - imagine a Belt and Road and Burger Initiative, where both countries cooperate to build the infrastructur and industrial base of the global south to create more partners for export and import.
So basically, US reindustrialization is necessary on the path to global peace and communism.
~~well flood the job market with immigrants~~
Well use AI to replace service workers and employ them in the factories!
Backup plan, we send the kids too!
Don't forget the prisoners
I've come to really like this guy. He relies almost entirely on objective economic and industrial measures and doesn't make grand sweeping projections about China saving the world. He just lays out over and over again the superiority of the Chinese economic model.
It's a good angle. It's pro-china content created from the perspective of China-watching and "we are losing" but without negativity towards China for being objectively better.
It's pretty clear to a longterm observer that he's pro-China but these videos work on libs when individually shared. They are especially effective when shown to Gen X and Boomers.
Yeah I like his stuff too. Just don't think to hard about the prayer stuff or his ideas about Chinese Christians. It put me off for a bit, but his analysis is just too good.
prayer stuff or his ideas about Chinese Christians
BUHHHH it's always something with these YouTube channels
I know, listen I'll take this pro China Christian over the Christian fascists in America.
oh hell yeah, I agree, it's just that I see it on the weirdest videos. like hi welcome to my video about how the stress vs. strain graph of steel compares to that of a finished bridge, and oh yeah glory to jesus. like what?
Does this have something to do with the unintelligible vocal track that plays in the background?
Yes. It's a prayer that plays through the whole video in every video. You hear it best at the end of the videos with headphones on. It's a little surreal when you first hear it. His analysis is still good regardless. Though he does believe that its the Chinese Christians that are driving China's rise, and not, maybe, their proletarian dictatorship and the states deep involvement in managing the economy or their 5 year plans.
I do find it interesting just how deeply burrowed the anti-China brainworms are in westerners, that even those of us who recognise China for what it is still try to place some kind of western influence on their success, still trying to find some way to slip in western chauvinism, even in pro-China content ( though this is more of a "neutral China content" but that is so rarely heard in the west that it might as well be "pro-China").
( though this is more of a "pro China content" but that is so rarely heard in the west that it might as well be "pro-China")
As processed by the western mind 🫡
If they don't spend half the video going off on tangents about evil dictators, Tibet, Hong Kong and "Ungers" it is clearly just a mindless pro-China shill and can safely be ignored.
its the Chinese Christians that are driving China’s rise
There's like 1% christians in China which is below statistical error margin lol
Oh I know, but he has a whole video on the subject. It's going to give you whiplash because of how grounded and well sourced his other videos are.
Dude for fuck sakes I liked this guy
Just keep his bias in mind when you watch his stuff. Read the sources he posts. I still think he's providing good information.
Literally doing the meme
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Can i go back to being blissfully ignorant about this? I liked it better when I thought it was just Chinese proverbs or something like that 🥲
Sorry to do that to you, but consider this: you're now equipped to handle the conversation when I comes up. Imagine you send this to your lib friend who always has their earbuds in and they hear the prayer loud and clear and ask you about it and you have no idea. At least now you can be ready for it.
Haha no need to apologize. You're right that it's better to know and be prepared and I was just being silly anyway. I was already under the assumption that his criticism of US economic policy wasn't coming from Marxist analysis or anything like that and was more just generic anti-neoliberalism or perhaps realism. Chinese Christianity wasn't even on my radar though lmfao
If religion gets people to do good things, what's wrong in it?
I agree. That's why I don't think to hard about it. But it's subtle if your just watching his videos over speakers like I am and it felt very wired to go back to videos I had watched and realize there was this whispering prayer behind them all when I first realized it was there. I'm not being snarky. I mean it literally, don't think to hard about this weird aspect of this dude, because the analysis is good. I do think people should be aware though.
We are all biased right? Part of being a socialist is understanding that fact and also owning it. Most socialist media online is up front about their socialist bias. This channel is open about it's bias, it's not hidden, but it isn't front and center either. It would be just as strange if behind these videos he was reading Capital in a whispered voice with almost no mention of Marx anywhere else in the videos.
It did feel a bit deceptive when I became aware of this Christian element of the channel. However, over time it became clear this dude makes informative content, and he's clearly not trying to convert anyone with his content. So that bias is harmless so long as it's not impacting his analysis.
Same, it's nice to get a lucid and well sourced analysis in under 10 minutes.
This is part of the whole supply chain controls.
It will be amazing if the US can build a drone using just CONUS manufactured parts.
I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: