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Electric cars will be cheaper to buy, pledges Heidi Alexander (www.bbc.co.uk)
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[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Public transport doesn't work everywhere. It's great in big urban areas but once you get out into lower density countryside it's hard to run something comprehensive.

If the choice is between a diesel or an EV then we should insentivise the EV. However direct subsidies for buying cars probably won't work as well as widening access to charging. I see they are trying to make the process of adapting pavements for curbside charging easier which I think will help more.

Charging from the socket is about a tenth the cost of public charging infrastructure and with solar it becomes functionality free.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where did you see the curb side charging stuff?

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Instead, she pointed to a £25m package that will be allocated to councils to fit "cross-pavement gullies", to make it easier for people without driveways to charge an electric vehicle (EV), alongside £63m for charging infrastructure.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 day ago

I hoped you had another source, but thank you.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why waste money subsidising the car industry when they could invest that money in proper public transport?

Fucking new Labour.

EVs are better than ICE cars but they're still shit for the environment and for society. Electric buses, trains, trams, and good cycle paths do a much better job for the environment, the mass transit of people, and for social cohesion. Fuck.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While I would like to see more investment in public transport, I would like to see ICE cars replaced and also I would like more options available for disabled people that can't take public transport.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

also I would like more options available for disabled people that can’t take public transport.

I hear this line and others like it a lot, but realisticly how many people are there who are so disabled they cant take public transport but arent so diabled that they can drive a car safely? Its pretty common for me to see people in wheelchairs taking the bus.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

My mum is so disabled that she can't take public transport but can ride in a car 🤷🏾‍♂️

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

As someone disabled who cannot drive.

Both options are required. Getting around rural areas is absolute hell ATM.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This is the correct answer. It's not even about rural areas. Yes public transport should be improved. Half of the borough I live in doesn't have access to Lime bikes and I can't fathom why, I would love to use them to get to and from the stations. But as a full-time carer, I know riding a bike or getting a bus or a train isn't feasible for my mum. So I will always support initiatives that make her life easier while not making everyone else's shitter. Too many people aspire for some utopia without considering the impact on those less able-bodied.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I dont think I've ever seen anyone say all personal vehicles should be banned, and I would assume dedicated carers would be bottom of the list of people to discourage from driving them.

But there is still always this refrain of "what about disabled people who need to drive" whenever nudging people away from cars to public transport is brought up. I dont mean that as a dig at you personally, but it is a noticable pattern.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Are you not subscribed to !fuck_cars@lemmy.ml 😂

I think a lot of people, including myself would like for public transport to be so good that people chose public transport whenever possible. I live opposite a school and most parents that drive their children to school absolutely don't need to, so a world without that would be optimal. But there's always going to be edge cases that require supporting.

Funnily enough, I just got back from my daily walk and while strolling, there was an aged car spewing black smoke. It's things like that why, though it's only a stop gap solution, I support stop gap solutions like this. Get old trash off the road.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I am in fact! But even there I dont see people saying all cars banned at all times for everyone (though you might get people who want to ban cars from some places or at certain times).

I just get a feeling that people (again, not you personally) raise up "what about disabled drivers" when they actually think "I dont care about public transport and this would inconvenience my driving slightly".