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Not even a single full day into operation, and the new Grok 4 is hurling racist conspiracy theories at users.

According to Elon Musk, no later than next week, it will be added to Tesla vehicles.

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[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 141 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Imagine asking it for directions and it starts talking about white genocide in South Africa, lmao

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 86 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Worse, it figures out the driver isn't white and forces them into oncoming traffic.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or starts running over non-white pedestrians

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Oh, so that's why they insisted on vision-only! LiDAR isn't racist enough

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Coming up next week: Captchas where you have to click on all the pictures containing non-white people

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Clicking the picture deploys a missile

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 14 points 3 weeks ago

If it determines their name sounds like (((one of them))), MechaHitler could lock its doors and detonate its batteries, helping to continue its namesake’s mission.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 15 points 3 weeks ago

I was thinking it only lets you "turn to the right". No left turns allowed.

[–] FleetingTit@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

Imagine asking it to take you to Taco Bell and the car just mows down the nearest mexican.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 81 points 3 weeks ago

Tesla owner: "I don't care about politics, I just like the car. I'm not a bad person!"

car is in the background screaming, "Jews will not replace us!!"

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 72 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

Literally why would anyone want that. Even racist elon musk lovers. Why would anyone want their car to have an LLM.

[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 51 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My guess is that some hardcore Musk followers must be very lonely at this point, so much so that they prefer talking to chatbots.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago
[–] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

In general, with tools these LLMs have the ability to bring the next generation of Alexa / HomePod like devices (though I am not sure Amazon has delivered on that vision yet)

I like the idea of running a Llama based "Assistant" that would not require all my data leaving my house which could also be accomplished with these features.

In my car though... just use my fucking phone and get out of my way

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[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Another reason to not get a Nazimobile

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Bad day to be a jewish Telsa driver.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

He's really leaning into the Swasticar thing isn't he?

[–] klu9@piefed.social 17 points 3 weeks ago

Grok reveals cause of latest Tesla FSD crash

[–] T156@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Very confused about what the point of this would be. People don't use their cars enough to justify having something like that installed, and it seems like it would just make things more expensive for xAI for not much benefit at all.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

It's so Musk can give himself money he would otherwise not get. The user experience has no part in this.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 10 points 3 weeks ago

Adoption and usage is a huge value for AI companies.

In order to train data, they need data from humans. Just like social media companies need users to create content. And they're already crawling & stealing everything they can off the internet. But they need more.

Google, Facebook - they're shoving it in everything they own to get more user usage so they can feed their AI beast.

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[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They can run the model locally on the car's onboard NPU/GPU, so every time the driver asks the car a question, the model can take compute away from the car's driving software. "Hey, Tesla, why are trees green?" Dashboard goes dark, car drives off road

Although to be fair, they already do that last part.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago

I was about to say, that might make the car safer on net!

Less compute means less bandwidth to hallucinate demons in front of you on a totally unobstructed straightaway.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Swastikar, now with Mecha Hitler.

[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

when getting blasted with fascist remarks on your daily commute is becoming the norm, we as a society should start asking questions.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I miss the days of good AM radio too. Also good FM radio. Ham radio never goes bad.

[–] Kurious84@eviltoast.org 13 points 3 weeks ago

Wow he's going balls out on the swasticar.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

We’re still waiting on self driving, Elon. Where’s self driving, Elon? Stop giving your devs extra work and implement self driving, Elon

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Tesla will go bankrupt before self driving is released.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Calling teslas “Swasticars” and CT’s “”Wankpanzers” was supposed to be a joke.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah yes, nothing could go wrong by giving MechaHitler mobility...

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 10 points 3 weeks ago

Noooo! He is gonna drive straight through Poland into Russia in winter, and then run out of power!

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So you want Grok, a racist LLM, to have control of vehicles with driverless features. How long until Grok commits a terrorist attack?

[–] klu9@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago

How long until one does and Trump says "there's good AIs on both sides"?

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Nazi vehicles with Nazi brains

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

Every day I am so glad that 8 years ago I decided not to buy a Tesla.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

At some point Grok is going to take over the driving and just start running over minorities. Mark my words

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Imagining a Cybertruck going apeshit yelling about praising Hitler because it disagreed with the driver and crashing into a ditch 😂 😭

[–] Part4@infosec.pub 7 points 3 weeks ago

I think he has actually found a way to make the cyber truck even shitter, which feels like some sort of weird achievement.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly the feature I was looking for on a new car.

Imagine the joys of commuting through rush hour with an insane, racist, conspiracy theory obsessed talking machine every day for the rest of your life.

It's like a fever dream

It's like a dream.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Until there are consequences for fascism, this is just circlejerking

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Oh and I hope Tesla stocks go down even more!

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Grok is now ready" - Musk

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 5 points 3 weeks ago

Remember this is the same guy that has increased the price on vehicles people didn’t yet receive but already paid for. He asked people to pay more for already purchased vehicles they have not received.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago

Still can't actually drive it's self like he has been promising for over a decade. Musk will never deliver.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If someone bought a cyber-truck without the Grock, they bought it as it was. Shoving Grock down the consumers' throats without their consent would constitute a material alteration of tge car that was originally bought. This would then constitute graffiti.

Edit: if the vehicle had not been fully purchased and paid, this would be potential grounds for a refund because the material alteration of the good would make the contract for the sale of the vehicle voidable.

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