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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 153 points 1 week ago (26 children)

The 250 year thing is basically completely made up BS

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Indeed. The empire you left to make your own with blackjack and hookers was nearly double that. If you want to be facetious too, then probably triple.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 83 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I hate to be nitpicky about a meme but I love to be nitpicky. This claims is based on bullshit statistics that the author made up or bent to his will. The Ottoman empire alone shows this to be incorrect but Rome too stands out. Besides, what would an arbitrary amount of time have to do with the collapse of complex economic systems. Its bullshit idealism and I hate seeing it.

I am begging the US to collapse though

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also worth pointing out that, while America may be 249 years old, no one would consider it an empire for the majority of that time. Its debatable, but I would argue we didn't really reach an empirical level of power until the late 40s, when we started taking over what was left of the British Empire's influence over the middle-eas5.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Of course this is incorrect, go look up an empire and see.

... Roman empire got over 1000 years, Ottoman's got 623 years, Mongol empire only got 162.

...and Italy, Turkey, and Mongolia are still around, they're just not empires anymore. They're Nations.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Uh, yeah, not like this.

If you're sitting around waiting for the empire to fall, then it's never going to fall. Empires fall because people make them fall.

And it's going to be achieved with blood...

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Also, ask when Rome fell, historians wont agree on any specific date. They were never the top of the town afterwards, but the fall was more of a gradual multi-century tumble punctuated by hitting every rock on the way down.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A watched empire never falls.

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[–] NeedyPlatter@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

When someone says "death to America", they aren't saying "death to Americans". A government/state is a regime, not all it's people, despite how much as nationalists love to stoke that sort of patriotism. So I have no problem with the slogan, I call for the fall of the US imperialist regime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_America#Interpretation_and_meaning - has some confirmations from various Iranian politicians and a travel writer.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Usians: "hate the government not the people"

Usians when hearing someone else say "hate the government not the people" about USA: "we're gonna kill you"

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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Thankfully, nothing lasts forever.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago

It's not correct, but would be nice.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Mean, mode, or median?

What's the standard deviation look like?

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[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (6 children)

in b4 someone says that it is an "average".

that number is made up BS anyways

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[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Despite all the and suffering it has caused and will cause, Trump admin has at least handed us the beginning of a breakdown in US hegemony as trust has eroded with other nations who are all busy pivoting away from it right now.

Unfortunately upon breaking the gridlock, other nations are scrambling to maintain the status quo rather than leaning into the future by redoubling commitments to address human and climate crises before it’s too late for the humans.

[–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Empires don't end, they fizzle out.

[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Facebook type posting

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's funny to imagine our descendants in whatever America becomes defending the empire by saying it wasn't America's fault it collapsed, it was Israel's; hopefully though one of the things they admit is it's also because of culture war idiocy and other arbitrary, fabricated social divisions; EDIT: Also the empire's insistence on capitalism and wasting the talents contained in around 350 million people; China capitalizing (haaaaa, see what I did there?) on their population with excellent access to really good education and health services has turned their one billion people into its most powerful asset, meanwhile in America humans are also an asset, but in the form of slavery (wage slavery and actual slavery).

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Even if this statistic wasn't bullshit, this comic has an inherent cruelty to it that ironically feels very American

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