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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Uh, yeah, not like this.

If you're sitting around waiting for the empire to fall, then it's never going to fall. Empires fall because people make them fall.

And it's going to be achieved with blood...

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Also, ask when Rome fell, historians wont agree on any specific date. They were never the top of the town afterwards, but the fall was more of a gradual multi-century tumble punctuated by hitting every rock on the way down.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A watched empire never falls.

it's all fun and games until the emperor picks up a fiddle

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Idealism is tossing a toll on your mental health

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

No, Tattorack is correct. Material conditions decaying makes it easier to topple, but Materialists know that without the working class organizing and acutally overthrowing the system, it won't fall. The system still has to be killed and replaced, otherwise it will linger on.