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[โ€“] SippyCup@feddit.nl 64 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I've never been a religious man but the fact that the sitting president closely matches the description of the antichrist and Mamdani showing up has got me asking some questions.

[โ€“] MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Zohran is a Muslim though ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jesus was Jewish the first time around. Maybe he's willing to associate with anyone but Christians at this point.

[โ€“] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)

One of the biggest online personalities is literally "Mr Beast"

[โ€“] Tabitha@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

Honestly my first thought first time I found out he existed, I'm surprised I've never heard a 2nd person say this until today.

[โ€“] Beaver@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

It's so fucking on the nose. I was so morbidly curious to watch Beast Games, and it honestly felt like setup to a horror movie where all the contestants were gonna get fed into a jigsaw murder machine at the end.

[โ€“] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Honestly shocked there isn't an evangelical movement calling Mr. Beast the great Satan

[โ€“] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 17 hours ago

I feel like the evangelicals have a "boy who cried wolf" problem, there. They've been saying everything from magic cards to pokemon to electric guitar is satanic, that no one outside of their bubble takes them that seriously. Honestly, if an evangelical told me something about the world I'd probably want to check with a more reputable source.

[โ€“] prole@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

There probably is. A couple of years ago there were tons of videos and memes and stuff about him being the antichrist. Anything that gets that much attention is gonna end up being at least a TikTok cult or something

[โ€“] tocopherol@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It would be funny to see this idea spread and evangelic liberals start literally worshipping Mamdani and the virtues of socialism

[โ€“] HamManBad@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

They already light pelosi candles

[โ€“] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

2,025 years later and the new roman empire (usa) is still doing violence on Palestinians and persecuting leaders who rise up and speak out for the oppressed. The more things change.

[โ€“] LoveWitch@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

Well well well would you look at the time (trump declares himself a sun god and demands a third part of all grain)

[โ€“] DelgadoSlims@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Christ-like

33 years old

Uh oh

[โ€“] segfault11@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago

someone's going to betray him for 30 trumpcoins

[โ€“] Chana@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's a good bit, I admit.

I do want to note that in the Gospels and really basically everything remotely intended to portray "eye witness" events of regarding Jesus (still stories that copy heavily from one another, hardly multiple accounts), the main message is, over and over again, "Jesus is special, you must believe in him over everything else". Reading these texts, the message is not, "love each other and live in community", it is, "eschew all else if that is what it takes to believe in me, even if that means being kind to your enemies". Just about every parable is just iterations on the theme of, "Jesus is special, he does miracles, you need to believe over all else". The Gospels are written with the exoectation that this would all be wrapped up during their lifetimes, as in Jesus was coming back on Thursday so you better start believing and stop focusing on worldly things.

Which is to say, the figure of Jesus is not exactly socialist, as socialists focus on the material, on community, of creating a better world through the destruction of capitalism. The figure of Jesus is more like a hippie that says, "screw all of that, join my cult, nothing else matters".

Anyways do with this what you will. The "Jesus was socialist" angle is still decent agitprop because most self-proclaimed Christians haven't read The Gospels. Very few people are really engaging with the figure or reading critically, they just learn parables in isolation and a local religious figure tells them what to believe about it.

[โ€“] MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This all doesnโ€™t matter because no matter how you look at it the โ€œIslam Doesnโ€™t belong in the westโ€ crowd believes in also something completely different

If Islam and Judaism were incompatible with the west than Christianity also would be incompatible

[โ€“] Chana@hexbear.net 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Christianity should be incompatible with basically anything that isn't ascetics constantly evangelizing to others. Of course, in the US the most "Christian" thing to do is to be a racist CEO that calls on God to punish LGBTQ people (the CEO is funding hate groups).

You forgot the racism

[โ€“] lapis@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very few people are really engaging with the figure or reading critically

well yeah, that's because those of us who did have largely either left the religion entirely or reworked a sort of extremely personalized variant of it.

[โ€“] Chana@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

Yes or become more abstract about it, accepting the many faults to try and recover a consistent thread tying it all together. Many modern sects are basically variants on these kinds of attempts trying to square scripture and modern culture and society. There are also many people in that quasi-Christian space between being a hardcore believer and an atheist with Christian biases, especially liberals in the imperial core. Like folks that go to a Unitarian church and identify as Christian and think Jesus did some of that stuff and pray to him but done think about it too much because church is a place for community more than being a cloistering nerd.

[โ€“] Crucible@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

โ€œDo not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn

โ€œ โ€˜a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-lawโ€” a manโ€™s enemies will be the members of his own household.โ€™

โ€œAnyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it."

Matthew 10:35-39

Not a lot of love and unity from this fella if you don't like him the most. As you say, it's valuable agitprop but damn if it doesn't drive a bit of me nuts

[โ€“] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago

What age was Christ when he was whipping land lords? Did we miss our chance?

[โ€“] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Bruh, we're the same age? I thought he was 10 years or so older

[โ€“] nfreak@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Guy's about to be mayor of New York and I'm over here having microwave nuggets and a Monster for lunch every day

[โ€“] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago

We are too used to politicians being older than 45 (or even 60)

[โ€“] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Feeling old yet? I know I do. chomsky-yes-honey

[โ€“] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wanna know when it really hits home that you're now officially old? When you start noticing that the doctors you see are younger than you are.

Just wait until professional athletes retire at your age.

[โ€“] Des@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah shit is getting weird.

my former co-worker was a devout christian with lefty tendencies and strongly believed Revelations would be entirely driven by "inspired" humans and totally non-supernatural. he was leaning on his own hypothesis that god's influence is entirely through the collective totality of humanity, within physical laws. he thought the prophecies were just perceived as such by minds incapable of grasping the modern world.

so yeah. maybe he was onto something

hopefully the earthly paradise is just world communism

hopefully the earthly paradise is just world communism

I mean it's definitelysame-picture

[โ€“] prole@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only son, that whoever believes in him shall have basic human rights

[โ€“] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Matthew 25:42-45 (NIV)

42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.โ€™

44 โ€œThey also will answer, โ€˜Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?โ€™

45 โ€œHe will reply, โ€˜Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.โ€™

Reminder that at one point in time in the US, there were actually Chistian (proto) socialists and abolitionists, not all these rabid and hateful, death cultist, supply-side Jesusfreaks.

(There were of course a lot of rather hateful Christians as well, but at least some of them used to seem to actually mean well)

[โ€“] prole@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

The pledge of allegiance was even written by a Christian socialist of some sort

[โ€“] kristina@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Didn't they post similarly about Bernie ๐Ÿ˜”

we should have known him for a judas when he worked with the Italians rather than against their oppression

[โ€“] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[โ€“] kristina@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

Waiting for the inevitable betrayal

[โ€“] Tormato@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bernie was St John The Baptist .

I dig this Zohran meme.

Hey Seuss Christโ€ฆwe really do have an incredibly great opportunity in NYC to put socialism on the map. Itโ€™s gonna take us all to be involved. But itโ€™s already changed the mood entirely.