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[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

This guy should learn to view science more like a constructivist. Pretty much everything in science is just something we made up that mostly aligns with the natural world, and just because one model is less accurate than another does not mean it's no longer useful.

We didn't abandon Newtonion physics when Einstein's model was proven for instance, since Newtonian physics is still very useful, and much easier to use compared to others.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 13 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

this sounds like the kinda thing that I (uneducated in this topic) would go "heh.. yeah.." and upvote not understanding the joke

then I open comments and it's actually about tossing toddlers into a volcano and I am immediately sentenced with the guilt of upvoting a meme about child volcano sacrifice and I have to come to terms about how I am a horrible person who will blindly follow someones agenda because they were using big words and I am actually incredibly foolish and don't deserve an opinion about anything ever..

or it's just an extremely nerdy joke that nobody really understands but upvotes anyways

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Same.

I was like oh it makes sense that there would be different types of protein. Here I go into the comments to increase the fidelity of my mental model! rofl guess not

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 5 hours ago

no you were right the first time

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

My standard response to that kind of statement is 'Good for you. Have a cookie.'

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

My standard response is I would like to know more

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This reads more like an anti-science meme. Things are complex, if you don't understand them fine, but keeping yourself deliberately ignorant isn't going to stop reality from being reality.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 1 minute ago

Maybe he's got a finer point, but it actually just looks like an argument against categorization. It's like saying I don't trust math about "triangles" or "scalene triangles" or "rhombuses" when you find out about the special properties of the equilateral triangle or the square.

The fact that there are differences between elements of a category does not eliminate the utility of the commonalities shared by elements of a category. It does limit that utility, yes.

For example, just because you are getting plenty of protein, if you somehow completely avoid one of the amino acids that the human body uses but can't synthesize, then eventually you will have some fairly specific health problems. That's not strong evidence that it's worth micromanaging your macronutrients by tracking your intake of all amino acids individually. (It might be; I haven't seen it studies either way.)

Maybe I'm missing some context, but I also get the "anti-science" vibe from the image.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

this is borderline.

there's a point where we can argue that the US has shit standards for food safety. and there's arguing that chemicals names are scary.

plus, he's a bit of a weirdo with the Rocco's Basilisk and his weird harry potter fanfiction

[–] juliebean@lemmy.zip 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

i assure you, there is much weirder harry potter fanfiction out there. i once read a Hogwarts Castle/Giant Squid smut fic.

Also, pretty sure a fellow named Roko came up with the basilisk, not Yudkowsky.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

the Roko's basilisk was from his forum, true, not directly his idea, but hes sort of related.

he is just a guy that sometimes, I hear wierd stuff and then I am not surprised hes involved in that.

That harry potter fan fic is weird, because instead of smut or shipping, it's like what if Harry Potter was a humanist philosoper instead if a normal child with magic powers.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Was that Harry Potter and the methods of rationality?

I read the first dozen or so chapters maybe 10 years ago, until I realized that the total number of chapters approaches infinity and it got pretty boring after some time.

yes, that chapter count was indeed impressive

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is, this guy is a known fraud and all-round bad dude

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I literally thought this was a parody/sarcasm when I posted it lmfao.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

Understandable

[–] KingCake_Baby@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sugar manufacturers lobbied for fats to take the blame for all of the serious health issues people have had in the last 60 years

[–] Newsteinleo@midwest.social 11 points 1 day ago

I know in my case, cutting sugar and simple carbs has done more than cutting fats.

[–] Ameripol@lemmy.world 97 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is this the same guy who wrote the Harry Potter Rationalism fan-fic and started the ai worshipping cult?

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago

that ai cult also doubles as a get smart quick scheme

[–] juliebean@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (6 children)

from my understanding, the ai cult initially sprang up on the forum he hosted (hosts? idk), but he didn't exactly start it, any more than Queen Elizabeth II invented punk rock.

but he did write the fanfic, and it's honestly pretty good. low bar i know, but dude's a better author than jowling ever was, and i definitely recommend it to anyone into HP fanfics.

[–] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People are always praising that fanfic for some reason so I tried reading it a while back. If it's the one I'm thinking of then hard disagree, the protagonist is a self-insert Mary Sue clearly written by a kid who thinks they're the smartest person alive. One part that still sticks in my mind years later is their fundamental misunderstanding of how fiat currency works, it was some ridiculous get-rich-quick scheme like melting down wizard currency into pure gold to sell to non-wizard community then using that money to buy silver which they'd trade up to magic society gold coins. It was some years ago so I may be misremembering the details, but there should be a ton of issues that immediately jump out to you there.

I trudged through and got as far as the first meeting with Malfoy where the author realized they were being too friendly with each other, but since Malfoy is supposed to be a bad guy they decided he should randomly blurt out something about how he wants to rape some girl.

Maybe it's just because I don't have the context of other bad fanfics, but that's a solid 0/10 from me.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The get rich quick scheme I thought was well thought out, for the 'in universe' principles that had been laid out. One galleon converted to a lot of copper, so the mary sue could take gold from the muggle world, get it made into galleons in the wizard world, trade those for a metric shit ton of copper knuts, and then take those to the muggle world to be sold for a much larger sum of money than had been used to buy the gold.

As long as you don't expect it to work forever, it would be fine. The writing was terrible, but the character established all the nuts and bolts of the operation by 'just asking' questions to the diagetic narrator: pure gold was able to be made into galleons for a fee, banks would give you your money in knuts if you asked, and the prices would work for it.

The writing was jank and the protagonist narrator insufferable, but the conclusions he drew did make sense for the world he had been placed in, as appropriate for a 'rationalist' critique of harry potter.

Edit: the part where I just threw up was where the narrator had an immediate, perfectly-thought-out-but-the-writer-couldn't-come-up-with-an-actual-thing when mcgonagoll threatened to alter his memory, but he had thought of a perfect solution to that years ago. It reminded me of terrible ttrpg players who just ad hoc added parts to their backstory so they could be mary sues in a collaborative game.

[–] juliebean@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago

regarding your edit, it was hardly a perfect solution. he just bit his lip real hard. that was his message to himself. i think it's mentioned a few paragraphs before he tells mcgonnagall about it. it is in there, but it is easy to miss on the first read through, to be sure.

[–] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If the coins are 100% gold or copper then you're in one of two scenarios: the value of the coin is the scrap metal value, in which case swapping between gold and copper makes little difference; or, the mint buys your scrap gold and converts it in-house, pocketing the difference. A mint has no reason to convert your gold to significantly higher value coins for you, that only loses them their economic and political power in the form of currency control.

The only way it would work is if you specifically build a world where everyone else is incredibly stupid just to make yourself seem smart.

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 18 hours ago

This kinda shit happens in the real world between real currencies

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (4 children)

The whole basis of that scheme was the different relative exchange rates in the muggle and wizard world. There are I think 17 silver sickles to 1 gold galleon, but in the muggle world gold is more like 50 times the value of silver. The plan was to take a galleon to the muggle world, melt it down and sell the gold, use the proceeds to buy silver, bring that silver back to the wizard world and have it minted into 50 sickles, and trade those sickles for about 3 galleons.

Like many scenes in HPMOR the author is mostly just roasting Rowling for lazy world building. He didn't have to build a world where everyone else was stupid, the point is that Rowling's wizarding world already fulfilled that requirement.

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[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's just arbitrage

It works until others realize there's an arbitrary opportunity and prices equalize

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[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

yeah all while ~~being a high school dropout~~ he never went to high school

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go back to your harry potter fan fiction

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Fucking what? Is he suggesting "protien" is a social construct?

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 12 points 17 hours ago

No he's suggesting he's completely confused and is going to tune out.

[–] Mainwave@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Downvoted for Yud. Ice this clown out.

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