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[–] ChillCapybara@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 days ago

“We need to get back to our centrist roots. This authoritarianism is hurting profits” said the capitalists en masse

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The article doesn't name names and only mentions "centerists." Those can all fuck off and make their own party. It will split the republican votes the most.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Republicans is more cultish then democrats. Democrats politician would be more open to a third party

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It'll be hard for Democrats to decide between the existing center-right capitalist status quo party and the new center-right capitalist status quo party. Meanwhile most Republicans just know they love fascism.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Should’ve pushed for ranked choice voting when they had the chance.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wish they were in discussion to overhaul our fptp voting system. Any third party is doomed to fail, by design, until first past the post is in the rear view mirror.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good luck to find enough politicians deciding to vote yes for a change to presidential elections electoral system

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Totally agree

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago

Oh, great. That's what we want. A third party that's also right-of-center. Yay.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Center right and far right party join together, to create the right party

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All these left of fascist, but still love some good old fashioned racism and misogyny shitheads, will hopefully leave some room for more progressives on the left, and the Right will continue in just more dysfunction.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess Trump is going to get that 3rd term after all

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (4 children)

He won't live that long. If nature doesn't kill him, his party will.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I don't think that it's going to work. I assume that the people who most aren't happy are moderate Republicans who can't stand Trump and company:

Disgruntled Republicans sick of being bullied by Donald Trump and Democrat centrists imperiled by the Left are secretly having conversations about forming a third party in American politics, The Swamp can exclusively reveal.

But they aren't gonna be enough votes alone. The people they'd best get along with are probably moderate Democrats, but the Democrats just ran Harris, who is also pretty moderate, so I doubt that moderate Democrats are especially upset at the moment. I think that they'd have a tough time attracting a bunch of moderate Democrats.

If you had just had an election between, I don't know, Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, then maybe you could try to run off with the Democratic center.

The second problem is that the US electoral system always stabilizes around two big-tent parties. It can be disrupted temporarily, but you're gonna eventually get two parties. If one or both of the Big Two parties splinter, they will just reform into a new two parties in a few years. So even if you get people who are unhappy with the status quo, once things stop shifting around, you're gonna have two big-tent parties again.

It's not clear to me that introducing a new party solves problems here. Like, you want a different coalition, you can do that within the parties. You're gonna have to make concessions and sell people on it, but long run, you'd have to do that with a new party too.

EDIT: I guess technically they could get a few Greens, but the American Greens are more of a left-wing protest party than specifically being anti-carbon or whatever, the way the German Greens might be. That's probably not gonna have much overlap with moderate Republicans. And there's the Libertarian Party, which might like more relaxed borders and lower barriers to trade, but LPers probably aren't going to generally be really enthusiastic about a muscular foreign policy, which I bet the unhappy people want.

EDIT2: My guess is a more-likely outcome, if the GOP stays Trumpy post-Trump, is that a bunch of Reagan Republican types give up on Trump, just join the Democratic Party and get some policy concessions out of the Democrats.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My guess is a more-likely outcome, if the GOP stays Trumpy post-Trump, is that a bunch of Reagan Republican types give up on Trump, just join the Democratic Party and get some policy concessions out of the Democrats.

Except the brand name is poisoned for their base. Forming a new party fixes that. The real problem is that they won't attract any big names from either side.

All the big name politicians on the right are the Trumpy nutjobs, and the big name politicians on the left are either too left-wing or they're entrenched leadership.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

These are exactly the people we do not want doing this shit.

[–] tomatolung@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago
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