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A supposed band called The Velvet Sundown has released two albums of AI slop this month.

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[–] SandmanXC@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Not to defend this garbage, but is radio pop music really distinguishable from ai slop?

People who actually care about music are not the target audience here.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I get not liking it, and there are some real clunkers, but I think you're dramatically underestimating the amount of craft and expertise that goes into some pop music.

[–] SandmanXC@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm referring to the mass-produced crap I hear when I get a random ride. Obviously pop music can have artistic intent, but I feel like that's a small minority.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Even mass produced things require skill and sophistication. Pop music is more like a mass produced iphone than a mass produced frisbee.

Sure the lyrics aren't saying something important or the singer isn't the same person as the songwriter, but a lot of hours went into it. The average person on the street could not create a comparable song to what you hear on the radio without significant effort.

[–] SandmanXC@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

From a labour perspective I agree. From an artistic standpoint not so much. I was mucking around making random beats in fruity loops when I was twelve and there weren't even any tutorials.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I would argue it can be, even if it isn't always. I don't go for radio pop at all, but we can agree that it changes substantially over time right? Billie Eilish doesn't sound like Imagine Dragons, who in turn didn't sound like Britney Spears. New ideas are being brought to the genre and to popularity all the time, otherwise we'd still have Beatles soundalikes dominating the radio

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

Pop is a very broad category.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Imagine Dragons makes me vomit whenever I hear them

[–] GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Thay are as basic as one can get, music for the lower common denominator; the production also sounds awfulllll. I hated hearing them in arcane.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

The video for Radioactive with the underground muppet fighting ring is comedy gold, but I assume it was someone else's idea.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

That's less of a defense of AI slop than it is a condemnation of the entire music industry.

[–] passepartout@feddit.org 9 points 3 days ago

Human music, I like it!

[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I began noticing this on my discover weekly, some particularily bad AI slop was showing up (I listen to a lot of ambient) and that alerted me to audit the rest of my playlists.

Look for artists that:

  • release an absurd amount of music per time period

  • have only released music post-2023

  • use obviously AI generated album art

  • have no photo of the real artist or description

Found about a dozen offenders.

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Perfect description of Buckethead, if not for the "only post 2023" qualifier.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

I had a copy of Giant Robot and Electric Tears back in the day and was thinking maybe there was a third album I was missing...

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago

Reminds me of this story about how Spotify inserts crap so they don’t have to pay royalties

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

So people like LLM generated music, they just have issue with it not being labelled correctly.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

This forum does.

98% of the planet couldn't care less.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

It’s not exactly “slop” if people are listening to it and presumably enjoying it. That just goes to show it’s not AI-generated content in general that people dislike - it’s bad AI-generated content. If the content is good, people are drawn to it regardless of who or what made it - as it should be.

It’s the toupee fallacy: “I’ve never seen a toupee that doesn’t look bad” …except for the ones that didn’t look bad, and you didn’t realize were toupees in the first place.

[–] taco@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s not exactly “slop” if people are listening to it and presumably enjoying it.

I don't agree with the logic. People listening to the music doesn't mean they necessarily enjoy it, just hate it enough not to skip, were at the skip limit for their free account, etc. People listen to ads too, and nobody enjoys those.

"AI slop" came into common usage with the onslaught of ai-generated articles. They only got so popular because somebody was out there clicking on them enough to generate ad revenue. It's a leap to assume that means they're reading, much less enjoying them. I think the same applies here, and "slop" is reasonable.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago

You're not really engaging with what I said. I'm not claiming everyone who listens enjoys it, just pointing out that some clearly do - and if enough people are voluntarily replaying it or adding it to playlists, then the “slop” label starts sounding more like prejudice than critique.

There's always filler and mediocrity in any medium - human or AI. We just don't call it “slop” when it's made by a garage band or a beginner solo artist. That word feels like it's doing extra work here - as if the low quality is inherent to all AI content independent of the end result. And that's exactly the bias I'm pointing to.

You can say it's “AI slop,” but if it passes for music some people want to listen to, then maybe it's time to reevaluate what that label is even supposed to mean.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

It can be slop and people can enjoy it.

For example, I'll usually put something on for background music. Usually one of the lofi streams on YouTube. I'm sure that a huge portion of that music is generated, not performed. But I'm not really appreciating it as music, either. If I want to actually listen to music, I'll put on actual music.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It's not exactly slop if the pigs eat it is it /s

I get what you're saying, if people don't detect ai music it must not be so bad. But in the original usage of slop, pigs don't care, but humans wouldn't eat the food. Same here, just because some people don't mind doesn't mean others can't easily discern the difference

You could also make the argument that pigs would prefer better food if it was an option, but they have no choice, they're only given access to slop.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

This is what I've been saying for years now. Idiots are going to consume ai without knowing it at all. Sad what humanity will be in a few years. Even dumber.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 days ago
[–] troed@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

"Turing test" for music successfully passed, then.