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    [–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (20 children)

    I am one of those people.

    I'm sorry but I can't dedicate the time. Last time I tried to install it for someone else I went down a 5h rabbit hole of finding a driver for a scanner, and I was at the point where I had custom pkg repositories and needed to fix pkg dependency conflicts myself and I don't have the OS knowledge to do all this, and I didn't have time because I had to travel back again.

    When I tried installing it for myself, I was missing critical software for a variety of things. For example, there's no good DAW on Linux, and even if there was, lots of VST plugins are only Linux compatible. Things like Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe After Effects have no solid alternative to this day for Linux and hence I'm struggling to replace them. Blender is on Linux (obv) but for example render engines usually only come with software for windows.

    And then there's a bunch of things where I'm not sure how compatible they are even if they were to run on Linux. Office uses proprietary file format constraints to lock down their ecosystem. Sucks, but everyone uses it, so I'm stuck. Unreal Engine, lots games, my audio interface, drivers for obscure small devices I need? I just don't know and I have to dedicate time to researching all of it.

    I hope you can see why someone like me has a very hard time just switching over. Yes I can just pull the plug and do it, but I will get no work done for a solid 2 weeks and even after that I will be heavily constrained.

    And this all on top of the fact that I regularly set up Linux VMs for specific things which break way too often on regular use. Which also does not spark joy.

    I hope you can understand why I'm fine debloating windows with Chris Titus for half an hour and then just enjoying 4 years on it without worrying about all of that is easier.

    And believe me, I bought a notebook and will try to go CachyOS x KDE Plasma on that, but it will be an experiment and I have lots of doubt that this can replace my setup.

    [–] HugeStone8574@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 days ago (6 children)

    Funny how people write a long essay why they stay on Windows, claiming what a hassle it is to set up Linux. Sure, you might know how do deal with Windows, but don't expect that other systems work the same way. Windows is the odd one.

    If you depend on Windows-only software, there is nothing wrong with sticking to it. Use the system that fits your needs the most.

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    [–] bigpEE@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)
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    [–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    windows debloating brought me more issues than using Linux, if windows is truly that much of an ass then you might as well have it as an option in a dual boos setup where you use it only when necessary (preferably non-debloated so it doesn't fuck itself when you need it)

    [–] hansolo@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I used to have a Linux/Win 11 dual boot.

    After about 6 months I stopped using Windows altogether. After about a year I just wiped the drive and went 100% Linux because Windows becomes a liability when it does BIOS updates you don't want or need to ensure that it's the only OS on the machine.

    I am in the stage where i only gave windows 70gb of my partition and uses ones in a few months

    [–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 points 1 day ago

    I yesterday tried installing win11, it couldn't detect my ethernet drives, and tried to sign me in, and because I had no internet, I had to create an account through cli anyway

    Funny

    [–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I got an oldish mid range Asus gaming laptop the TUF Dash f15, what's a good distro for this? something that's as close as windows in perfomance as windows 10 is

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    [–] Brahvim@lemmy.kde.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I am a happy Debian user, but TBH, it doesn't take too much longer than 2 hours with Chris Titus Tech's winutil.

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    [–] ramsgrl909@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    I am considering moving off windows but am extremely not tech-savvy. Is there a good place for me to start?

    [–] utopiah@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

    extremely not tech-savvy

    You managed to make an account and post on Lemmy so you're probably underestimated your technical knowledge. That being said IMHO it's best to first list what software you use then find alternatives that work on Linux. Once that's done then yes sure try whatever distribution you want.

    [–] Limonene@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

    Sure, here are instructions for getting Linux Mint running: https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php

    These instructions are for creating a USB flash drive that functions as both a live environment or an installer. If you don't want to install it yet, this allows you to try it out while booting just from the flash drive, without modifying your hard drive at all.

    [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    I do free infinite troubleshooting on matrix and specialize in this exact situation, feel free to message me. I recommend something based on immutable fedora because it's breakage resistant (immutable means the core system is read only and updates all at once on reboot) and fedora because it's very up to date but still stable, try aurora (it's fedora immutable with some small improvements)

    do kde, always kde or gnome unless you know what you're doing, but kde is better

    [–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

    If you're not humblebragging, perhaps you oughta get a Linux-preinstalled laptop like System76.

    If you were humblebragging, check out https://fedoraproject.org/workstation/ and get the Plasma edition.

    [–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

    Most of my machines are Linux, and I can say the desktop experience still doesn’t match up with Windows. And there’s still so many third party tools that are Windows exclusive.

    I would love to be able to shut down every Windows machine I have for good, and I’ve tried, but there are simply many things that still require Windows. Stop gaslighting people, and acting like they’re staying by choice.

    If all you need is web based stuff, why even go to Linux? That’s overkill. Just use a tablet.

    [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    For the vast majority of usecases it is ready, niche applications sure, but most people could use linux these days.

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    [–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

    For me Linux surpassed the Windows desktop experience in 1996 and even though Windows 2000 was a pretty good upgrade, I don't think it has surpassed desktop Linux yet. Windows 10 was not bad either, but now that has gone mostly downhill whereas Linux has merely plateaud at worst or has been improving slowly at best.

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    [–] Mesophar@pawb.social 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    I mostly just game and browse the Internet and my daily driver is Linux. I have not come across anything that I needed Windows for so far, in a year and a half of not using Linux. There may be some games I was vaguely interested in that don't run easily on Linux, but day to day tasks, 3d printing/slicing software, basic image editing software, browsers, coding IDEs, all work native on Linux.

    Sure, if there is a specific software that you really want to use, maybe that specific software isn't available on Linux. But one individual running into multiple things that only run on Windows sounds like it is a fairly specific use case. At best, someone might need to use an alternative program. At worst, maybe that person needs to keep a windows environment around. But that doesn't seem like the case for the majority of people.

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    [–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    2 weeks? More like 10 mins..

    [–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

    Until the next re-bloating update where your settings get reverted and services re-installed.

    Being good at de-bloating (as you may very well be to do that in a few minutes!) is an anti-skill that shouldn't have to exist.

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    [–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    I mean, 10 minutes is pretty optimistic even for a relatively savy user. It took me somewhere around an hour to find and fix everything. On the other hand, it took me and a bunch of people on the Linux support subreddit around 20 hours of troubleshooting to get Linux into a mostly functional state on my PC, at which point I and everyone else had given up, so...

    Its been nearly two years since then though, and given what a nightmare Windows 11 is, I guess I'll have to give it another shot.

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    [–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    10 minutes is enough only for "Oh, that's too difficult, let's pretend that I'm content with Windows as it is"

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