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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

Do Americans not eat fish?

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 50 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You'd only get second-hand smoking if you spent every day in your life in the tourist hellhole of central Amsterdam. Try going to Germany instead, everything and everyone reeks of cigarettes and they even have vending machines for them in plain sight in amusement parks.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I swear, smokers in Europe have atrocious social graces with no concept of personal space. Even at the busiest and most cramped cafes, they will light up at the table with you or standing next to a doorway, and then act like you’re the problem if you’re annoyed or upset about second hand smoke. Beer gardens and outdoor seating almost universally include a carcinogenic haze, it just ruins the meal/drink imo to be tasting the air between bites

At least in America the social stigma is strong enough where they scurry off to their ~~opium den~~ smoking area and get their nicotine hit with their brethren. Go in peace friend, you do you over there to y’all’s lungs

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sweet summer child, you should have seen Europe at the turn of the century.

I've seen doctors pulling out a cigarette and start smoking in the middle of a ward. Any place you'd go at night - a cafe, a bar, a pub, a disco - and you'd nearly vomit at how your clothes smelled the next day.

Everything and everyone smelled like tobacco.

Nowadays? It's paradise I tell you.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The US used to be a lot like this too. Food service workers smoking cigarettes while they carve meat and then throwing the butts in the drain. Smoking sections in restaurants being most of the restaurant while the non-smoking section was a corner of the restaurant where they just sat you between all the smokers like the smoke was gonna hit an invisible barrier. Everybody was smoking all the time. My grandma once served my grandfather his breakfast in an ash tray because she was so sick of him putting out his ciagrettes on the plates.

It wasn't until around the 2000s that things really shifted in the US, and now the thought of a smoking vs non-smoking section of anything other than a little room at the airport where the smokers all squash into to smoke is unheard of.

[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I remember a buffet place—it may have been a Golden Corral, not sure—that had a sealed off smoking section with a glass wall, one of those “air doors” above the sliding door that function like an air lock, and a separate AC system.

It was always weird to look into that space and watch the lonely people smoking and eating.

Every other restaurant was a smoking free-for-all.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

"My grandma once served my grandfather his breakfast in an ash tray because she was so sick of him putting out his ciagrettes on the plates."

Ha, this is an excellent story

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

can confirm (germany), it's gotten better but in my childhood there was literally just a cig vending machine outside my block, like 30-40m away from a playground

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The US used to have those vending machines in bars and some restaurants too, up until the 90s. The smoking section of restaurants was mostly an invisible line that cut the room in half, so you could have a smoking table literally right next to a non-smoking one.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Go back before smoking sections, and it was the Wild West. Smoking was the default environment. Non-smokers were expected to remove themselves if they were bothered by it.

At the grocery store there would be a line of gumball machines for kids, right alongside a cigarette machine.

My high school had a smoking courtyard, right across from the cafeteria. We called it The Pit. Teachers smoked in the Teachers Lounge. It was famous for having a cloud of smoke pour out whenever the door opened.

I remember being in a doctor's office as a kid, and having the doctor light up during the exam!

In many families, both parents would smoke in the car with the windows rolled up, and kids in the backseat, with no car seats or seat belts.

Nobody asked permission to smoke after a meal, they'd just light up, even if others were still eating. I remember my Dad getting offended when I asked him not to light his pipe at the dinner table while I was still eating.

People smoked at every table in any restaurant.

In offices, people smoked at their desks, until offices started having smoking rooms, and eventually chased them outside. Today I see workplaces where smoking isn't allowed anywhere on the premises.

I worked in record stores starting in 1977, and there was always a standup ashtray at the intersections of aisles, filled with sand. At the end of the night, while the manager was counting the till, one of the clean up jobs was taking a sieve to each ashtray, and sifting out the cigarette butts. Every store I worked in had ashtrays, until I became a store manager, and banned smoking in my stores.

Almost EVERYBODY smoked in the 60s and 70s, except me.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

Fun fact, this is how I got about half of my cigarettes in high school. The local dive had the machine by the back entrance which was around the corner from the host stand. You could easily use it without being seen. And on the rare occasion someone did see you and said something all you had to do is tell them to mind their own business and leave because the entire process took about 30s.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

While I am regularly annoyed at smokers in restaurants, at bus stops/train stations and in pedestrian zones, you haven't felt "everything" until you go to e.g. Turkey (as much as I love the country)

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[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

And it's damn tasty. herring and raw onions are amazing. That sad pickle slice can screw off though.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I’d try it. Is the skin meant to be eaten after pickling, or does it remove easily?

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's very soft, you eat it with the skin. The Dutch version of salted herring is the nicest one (compared to Nordic and Baltic versions), it's quite mild flavoured and has a great raw-fish kind of texture. Ones which are pickled longer are still nice but can get a bit floury sometimes.

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Danish pickled herring is amazing though... You really think Dutch salted herring beats it?

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In my opinion yeah, the texture is better, smoother, when they're freshly brined as opposed to the more crumbly/flaky texture when they're marinaded in vinegar. But Danish picked herring is also delicious.

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Crumbly? Flaky? That doesn't sound like a Danish pickled herring... They're smooth and fatty, with a light acid.

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[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago

No need to remove the skin. It’ll just melt in your mouth.

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[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, there goes my appetite, this Dutch guy hates herring. Can't stand the smell, taste or texture. 🤢

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I'm not sure if I've had herring but I feel the same about pickles.

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think the IQ is intact

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 14 points 1 week ago

As a Dutch child, we shouldn't assume too much about their starting point.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fun fact, if you look up "Dutch cuisine" on Wikipedia, this is literally the second picture (right after Gouda cheese).

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What are the little white bits, chopped onions?

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Yes, raw white onion.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

One of my favorite things about visiting the Netherlands are the herring stalls :D

I prefer mine in a bun, but all forms are delicious.

[–] LongLive@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Put 200 on Herring, this matchup isn't even close.

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

This meme is timed really well with me being on holiday in the Netherlands. But it’s also true

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So… is that good? It doesn’t look awful, but it also does not look good to me, but I’ll try anything twice 🤷‍♂️

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[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Is that fish even fucking cooked? It sure doesn't look like it.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

why would it be cooked? it's pickled!

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[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It is cooked. In the sense that it is not raw. There are other ways then boiling to produce safe, accessible calories.

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[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

In Germany, we have pickled herring too, but this German is happy to admit that Hollandse Nieuwe reigns supreme.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Its pickled, not raw. Scandinavians have been pickling fish for a very long time and it's worked out OK so far.

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 4 points 1 week ago

It's been working out a lot better since the invention of flash freezing. For both sushi and pickled fish, the risk of parasites was always present. Now it's just as safe as cooked fish and it doesn't taste any different from raw.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But no baking, frying, or cooking of any kind?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No of course not, you have to pick just one of the options for your people's cusine

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm American. We choose microwaving.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It’s no different than sushi. The Dutch have lekkerbekje if you want to eat fried fish.

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[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

Seems like a waste of onion. At least get it on there!

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