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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

Then retrain on that.

Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

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[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 295 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't everyone just sick of his bullshit though?

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

US tax payers clearly aren't since they're subsidising his drug habit.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If we had direct control over how our tax dollars were spent, things would be different pretty fast. Might not be better, but different.

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[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 249 points 1 week ago (1 children)

adding missing information and deleting errors

Which is to say, "I'm sick of Grok accurately portraying me as an evil dipshit, so I'm going to feed it a bunch of right-wing talking points and get rid of anything that hurts my feelings."

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is definitely how I read it.

History can’t just be ‘rewritten’ by A.I. and taken as truth. That’s fucking stupid.

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[–] maxfield@pf.z.org 159 points 1 week ago (13 children)

The plan to "rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge" with AI sounds impressive until you realize LLMs are just pattern-matching systems that remix existing text. They can't create genuinely new knowledge or identify "missing information" that wasn't already in their training data.

What he means is correct the model so all it models is racism and far-right nonsense.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Remember the "white genocide in South Africa" nonsense? That kind of rewriting of history.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 106 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"If we take this 0.84 accuracy model and train another 0.84 accuracy model on it that will make it a 1.68 accuracy model!"

~Fucking Dumbass

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] bufalo1973@europe.pub 100 points 1 week ago (1 children)

[My] translation: "I want to rewrite history to what I want".

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That was my first impression, but then it shifted into "I want my AI to be the shittiest of them all".

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 82 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

adding missing information

Did you mean: hallucinate on purpose?

Wasn't he going to lay off the ketamine for a while?

Edit: ... i hadnt seen the More Context and now i need a fucking beer or twnety fffffffffu-

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He means rewrite every narrative to his liking, like the benevolent god-sage he thinks he is.

[–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 21 points 1 week ago

Let's not beat around the bush here, he wants it to sprout fascist propaganda.

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[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 70 points 1 week ago (4 children)

He's been frustrated by the fact that he can't make Wikipedia 'tell the truth' for years. This will be his attempt to replace it.

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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Elon Musk, like most pseudo intellectuals, has a very shallow understanding of things. Human knowledge is full of holes, and they cannot simply be resolved through logic, which Mush the dweeb imagines.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I elaborated below, but basically Musk has no idea WTF he’s talking about.

If I had his “f you” money, I’d at least try a diffusion or bitnet model (and open the weights for others to improve on), and probably 100 other papers I consider low hanging fruit, before this absolutely dumb boomer take.

He’s such an idiot know it all. It’s so painful whenever he ventures into a field you sorta know.

But he might just be shouting nonsense on Twitter while X employees actually do something different. Because if they take his orders verbatim they’re going to get crap models, even with all the stupid brute force they have.

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 56 points 1 week ago (23 children)

Whatever. The next generation will have to learn to trust whether the material is true or not by using sources like Wikipedia or books by well-regarded authors.

The other thing that he doesn't understand (and most "AI" advocates don't either) is that LLMs have nothing to do with facts or information. They're just probabilistic models that pick the next word(s) based on context. Anyone trying to address the facts and information produced by these models is completely missing the point.

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[–] TheDeadlySquid@lemm.ee 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Deleting Errors” should sound alarm bells in your head.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago

Dude is gonna spend Manhattan Project level money making another stupid fucking shitbot. Trained on regurgitated AI Slop.

Glorious.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So where will Musk find that missing information and how will he detect "errors"?

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[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

"and then on retrain on that"

Thats called model collapse.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 42 points 1 week ago

Because neural networks aren't known to suffer from model collapse when using their output as training data. /s

Most billionaires are mediocre sociopaths but Elon Musk takes it to the "Emperors New Clothes" levels of intellectual destitution.

[–] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The thing that annoys me most is that there have been studies done on LLMs where, when trained on subsets of output, it produces increasingly noisier output.

Sources (unordered):

Whatever nonsense Muskrat is spewing, it is factually incorrect. He won't be able to successfully retrain any model on generated content. At least, not an LLM if he wants a successful product. If anything, he will be producing a model that is heavily trained on censored datasets.

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[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I never would have thought it possible that a person could be so full of themselves to say something like that

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Training an AI model on AI output? Isn't that like the one big no-no?

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We have seen from his many other comments about this, that he just wants a propaganda bot that regurgitates all of the right wing talking points. So that will definitely be easier to achieve if he does it that way.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

iamverysmart

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So they’re just going to fill it with Hitler’s world view, got it.

Typical and expected.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, this is the same guy who said we'd be living on Mars in 2025.

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[–] releaseTheTomatoes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Spoiler: He's gonna fix the "missing" information with MISinformation.

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol turns out elon has no fucking idea about how llms work

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[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 28 points 1 week ago

If we would talk like this, we’d end up in a padded room and drugged to kingdom come. And for good reason, I should say.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How high on ketamine is he?

3.5 (maybe we should call it 4)

I think calling it 3.5 might already be too optimistic

[–] Antaeus@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Elon should seriously see a medical professional.

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@midwest.social 24 points 1 week ago

I wonder how many papers he's read since ChatGPT released about how bad it is to train AI on AI output.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How does anyone consider him a "genius"? This guy is just so stupid.

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[–] oliver@lemmy.1984.network 22 points 1 week ago

So "Deleting errors" meaning rewriting history, further fuckin' up facts and definitely sowing hatred and misinformation. Just call it like it is, techbro‘s new reality. 🖕🏻

[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Aren't you not supposed to train LLMs on LLM-generated content?

Also he should call it Grok 5; so powerful that it skips over 4. That would be very characteristic of him

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There are, as I understand it, ways that you can train on AI generated material without inviting model collapse, but that's more to do with distilling the output of a model. What Musk is describing is absolutely wholesale confabulation being fed back into the next generation of their model, which would be very bad. It's also a total pipe dream. Getting an AI to rewrite something like the total training data set to your exact requirements, and verifying that it had done so satisfactorily would be an absolutely monumental undertaking. The compute time alone would be staggering and the human labour (to check the output) many times higher than that.

But the whiny little piss baby is mad that his own AI keeps fact checking him, and his engineers have already explained that coding it to lie doesn't really work because the training data tends to outweigh the initial prompt, so this is the best theory he can come up with for how he can "fix" his AI expressing reality's well known liberal bias.

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[–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Yes please do that Elon, please poison grok with garbage until full model collapse.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 21 points 1 week ago

That's a hell of way to say that he wants to rewrite history.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

which has advanced reasoning

No it doesn't.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Huh. I'm not sure if he's understood the alignment problem quite right.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago

We have never been at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with East Asia

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