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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 85 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I wasn't going to comment initially but, thinking again, I will.

According to what I was once explained, the scheme runs like this.

a) organization X starts a fund raising campaign

This alone can be deducted as an expense, as any amount of hours can be attributed to planning, preparing, etc, the entire thing.

As this time as no profitable end, it can be deducted.

b) You donate. But now it's their money.

Your money is siphoned to a separate bank account or just tallied and earmarked as for charitable purpouses but this does not mean the entity needs to hand it over immediatly.

That money is held within the company's vaults, figure of expression, and, as such, counts towards the overall financial assets of the company.

It still needs to be handed to the end recipient but until it does it can be used to leverage loans and be invested into short term investment products, like overnight deposits (with hundreds of thousands or even millions it does gain interest overnight).

c) the money gets donated eventually but not by you

Eventually, all that money gets handed over but it is now their money, not yours. And as such, they get the tax deduction. And, again, with hundreds of thousands to millions in donations, the deduction gets very high.

This deduction, on your expense, goes towards clearing more of their profits.

Want to do something good?

Volunteer. Help your neighbour. With your own efforts, actions and work. Don't hand over money.

[–] Cronization@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

And as such, they get the tax deduction.

This part, at least, is not correct. (explanation at apnews.com, alternate snopes link)

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

I don't doubt your word. I paraphrased the explanation an accountant in my country (Portugal) gave me. It may work differently in other places and I sincerely hope so.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

whoever explained their "explainer" doesn't know taxes

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As mentioned in other comments - the tax deduction thing is not true. It is true, however, that they can ''donate' the funds to a charitable foundation that is run by the same people as the company (i.e. they are on the board of the charity as well as being C-suite execs of the company) thereby creating a slush fund disguised as charity that may only need to actually use 5% for charitable activities.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

A national supermarket chain has its own foundation and sometimes runs fund rallies for it, which they collect through their store front.

What I stated comes from an explanation I was once given by an accountant. It works (or worked, hopefully) like that here, Portugal.

[–] hardtrip@lemmy.ml 59 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The reason they ask for donations is because they can pool the donations together, say they’re donating, and then get a tax write off. They are just trying to make free money.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 97 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

This is a commonly repeated myth but it isn't true. Nobody gets a tax write off in point-of-sale fundraising. Charities ask stores to do it because it's one of the most efficient and effective ways for a charity to raise money. Chairty events are costly, and asking people on the street gets a lot of rejection. Stores agree to do it because they get to run ads saying they helped raise millions for charity and the charity will usually shout them out as well.

[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I work for a retailer and have been loosely involved in a project like that a few years ago.

Basically, it felt like it was mostly a very inexpensive way for the company to get everyone involved feel good about themselves. The free advertising was definitely an argument to get the higher-ups on board, but my impression was that it was kinda secondary compared to the kinda fake good conscience it gave everyone.

There was definitely no tax breaks for that initiative though, so at least in my country that is indeed a myth

EDIT: You also get to say in your annual report to the shareholders that the company helped raise x millions euros to charities at no cos, which in turn makes them feel good about themselves without impacting their profits.

[–] scott@lemmy.org 13 points 2 weeks ago

They still take credit for it like you said.

[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've always been curious how the money gets to the charity. Does the corporation put the donations into an account and collect interest on it before they give it to the charity?

[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And who pays the cc fees? And do they have an agreement with the cc provider for a kickback? There are so many hands involved with simple monetary transactions most people wouldn't believe it.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Charity is profitable.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

It’s a good question. The flat fee is already covered by your item purchase, so at worst it would be 2.5-3.5% of the donation amount, which isn’t terrible.

[–] hardtrip@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Damn, I didn’t know I was duped. I do wonder how this holds up in countries other than the US.

[–] alexc@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Don’t forget the press release they can also make saying how nice they are for donating, too…

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You should delete your misinformation.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

No, they should leave it up as it is immediately debunked in the next comment, which is good.

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[–] Fetus@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why do they never offer to match donations? I'd probably consider it if they did.

[–] Red0ctober@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because you're giving them money that they then donate and claim as their own. It's a way to get around actually donating money from their profits, while making it look like they're donating a ton for the tax write off.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

That's not how it works, at all. Businesses can't claim donations they collect on behalf of a charity as a deduction.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

They can lie and misreport. And if nobody in the state/federal bureaucracy follow up, they get away with it.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Why do they never offer to match donations?

Why would they bother? It costs them next to nothing to stick an ad on the screen. But matching donations would be far more expensive.

Besides "matching donations" has always been a scam. These agreements inevitably amount to "Person/Org X agrees to donate up to $X in matching funds". But $X is so small that its trivial to hit. And I've never heard of someone failing to get the whole amount regardless of the donation rate. It's just an excuse for the folks running the donation drive to scream "PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! Your refusal to donate an extra $1 is costing us $10!!!! Why are you being so stingy!!!"

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone correct me, but I understood that donations serve as a tax write-off.
So they don't care about the donations as much as their own savings.

[–] hakobo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Since you asked, the tax write off stuff is basically a myth. If you donate, let's say $20, then they have to mark down $20 of additional income, raising their tax burden by $20 x 21% (federal, plus whatever state tax there is). Then, when they hand over the money to the charity, they get to take a $20 deduction (not a credit) which means their tax burden is lowered by $20 x 21% (again plus any state tax). So comes out even in the end. The deduction basically says, hey, remember the $20 I put down as income? Don't tax me on that because I used it for a tax-exempt purpose. They report it as income, then report the donation. Nothing fishy there.

However, depending on how long they hold onto that money, it's possible to use the money to make other money, like investing it or even just sticking it in a savings account where it would get a little interest. And with enough donations, that might add up.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Remember that none of the people working there have any say in the matter either, and are most likely struggling themselves. The system was made broken.

[–] Mickey7@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I never take out my frustration on the employees, but one time I did mutter, I'm still waiting for someone.... any one ....to give me something for free.

Oh man I feel ya.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Nothing is free.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's not the people , it's the corporations

[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Never donate at the cash register. It's a tax deduction scam.

Donate to a real non-profit instead of blood sucking corporations.

[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

~~THIS IS PURELY A METHOD OF AVOIDING TAXES~~.

Never donate to charities through one of these big companies. If you want to donate, then do so directly.

Anything else just helps the corporation wash their image by gathering money and then donating to whichever cause. ~~They do so and also take all of that money off of their taxable requirement~~.

Edit: was wrong.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/walmart-checkout-charity/

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck big corporations using "charity" to pull tax avoidance scams. Why the fuck would I donate through you when I can go for a charity not associated to a corporation?

I have an idea, if you donate ten times the amount I donated from your profits, then I will donate through you. Otherwise you can fuck off.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

Congrats, you understand that the government taxing them and using the money to fix social problems will work infinitely better than charity ever has.

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

20 bucks is a fucking crazy auto request.

My grocery stores sometimes ask me to round my payment up to the nearest dollar and donate the change to various places.

(and they can fuck off sorry)

[–] arin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Because they use your donations to pay for their parties

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know. I don't know how high finance works, but a company who has the oportunity to take 1 dollar from every person is a big no for me. I do not care if they do donate the money or not, I don't do it because we let them carry that ridiculy amount of money, to the people that does know how high finance work. Maybe the money it is donate it, yea, but, what's next? I do not want to be rewarded, I wanna know if ~~my money~~ the money of everyone was delivered as it should, that's all, and I don't think that a company uses the same time that spent to ask you for a dollar for letting you know that everything is fine.

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They likely do donate and this is a way for them to make that money back.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

It's not. Literally the only benefit the business gets is bragging rights.

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