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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


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https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 79 points 1 month ago

The Soviet Buran space shuttle is being restored for museum exhibition in the Russian Federation.

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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 79 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (24 children)

Iran just launched the largest ballistic missile attack of the past few days on Israel this morning, over 30 ballistic missiles launched. Multiple impacts/direct hits in Tel Aviv (3) and Be'er Sheva (1), including on Soroka hospital.

Lots of interceptors, likely David's Sling, were launched over Tel Aviv

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 79 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Fuel tanks of Israeli jets keep being found on Iran's Caspian coast.

Azerbaijani airspace is almost certainly being used as a launchpad towards Tehran.

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[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 79 points 1 month ago (8 children)
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[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 79 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 79 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

Trump has left the G7 and is heading back to Washington DC, and posted these three things on Truth Social

More very public signalling towards Iran.

Lindsey Graham joins in

This is very serious. Anyone on here that lives in Iran, please take as much precautions as possible. Leave if possible.

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[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 78 points 1 month ago (3 children)

—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 Washington Post: 'Israel will only be able to maintain shooting down Iranian ballistic missiles for 10 or 12 more days, then they will need to start rationing munitions'

This could explain why Iran is opting to launch small but consecutive waves. Iran is likely using up some of their older / less sophisticated missiles to deplete Israeli defenses, to make way for the 'real' stuff later on. This is attritional warfare.

In most cases, a small wave of 3-5 Iranian ballistic missiles is enough to prompt the launch of about 10-15 Israeli interceptor missiles, with each one costing at least $12 million dollars (in the case of THAAD).

In contrast, even Iran's most modern missile, the Fattah-1, only costs about $200,000 to produce. If we assume 12 interceptors for one Fattah-1 missile (as seen in a video today), that means Israel is spending $144 million dollars to 'intercept' (or not) a single Iranian hypersonic missile.

This is simply not sustainable. Within about two weeks, if Iran keeps up the current pace of fire, Israeli airspace will be at the mercy of Iran's far larger and more destructive solid fuel missiles. Unless, of course, the U.S. intervenes directly.

From @Middle_East_Spectator, good analysis that lines up with a lot of what we've been saying here.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 78 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Former Economy Minister of Iran seems to be calling for the Strait of Hormuz usage to immediately be taken under a policy of "all ships require approval from Iran to pass".

Passing the Strait of Hormuz Only with Iran's Permission

🔹Khandouzi, Former Economy Minister: Starting tomorrow, for 100 days, no oil tanker or LNG cargo should be able to pass through the Strait without Iran's approval.

🔹This policy is decisive if it is implemented "on time". Any delay in its implementation means enduring more war inside the country. Trump's battle must be ended by combining economy and security.

Fars News Agency https://t.me/farsna/377755

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[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 78 points 1 month ago (35 children)

I'm getting really annoyed that whenever you express disappointment with China's passive foreign policy, some people immediately act like you're being unreasonable and asking China to declare total war, as if there aren't a dozen other things the world's biggest manufacturer could do with the amount of cards they have. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, because if continuing (and even strengthening) trade with the Zionist entity during a genocide didn't stop those people from making up excuses, then nothing will.

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[–] whatdoiputhere12@hexbear.net 78 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 78 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

Update: B-2s currently in the air, still over the continental United States though, just left Whiteman. Potentially 8 B-2s, in two separate groups. 4 hours to California, and 24 hours to cross the Pacific... I can't believe this is being done so publicly, this has to be signalling and not an actual combat mission. The B-2s are using the callsign MYTEE, a transit callsign that covers the entire bomber fleet. So most likely not a combat mission.

You can hear the comms here

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In what has to be one of the most blatant acts of public signalling I've ever seen, the US issued a notice to all airmen (NOTAM) for mid air refueling off of the coast of Honolulu, Hawaii, at 15:00 UTC for June 21st. This notice was issued just outside of the Pacific Missile Range Facility Barking Sands, the red B-2 shaped outline, just by chance I'm sure. This is definitely something only Trump would do, if you put it in a movie or Tom Clancy novel it would be too blatant. ~~So the B-2s are just past Hawaii now, should they be on their way.~~

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 78 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

Israel is taking down youtube lives showing tel aviv and haifa. We're entering a period of military censorship that includes civilian cities now.

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[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 78 points 1 month ago (5 children)

when you've been offline for a few days and when you return the news comm is at 3600 comments stress

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[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 78 points 1 month ago (8 children)
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[–] glingorfel@hexbear.net 77 points 1 month ago (8 children)

if trump decides to go for it, we're gonna end up with a nazbol Tucker Carlson campaign in 2028 that unites all the worst libs and chuds

I keep seeing clips of him roasting Ted Cruz with a bevy of comments on each one from libs saying "I can't believe I'm agreeing with Tucker now"

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 77 points 1 month ago

Iranian Atomic Energy Agency full statement:

'Following the brutal attacks of the Zionist enemy over the past few days, at dawn today, the country's nuclear sites in Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan were attacked by the enemies of Islamic Iran in a brutal act that contradicts international laws, especially the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

This act that contradicts international law was unfortunately carried out in amid the shadow of indifference and even the support of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)

The American enemy, through cyberspace, the President of this country has taken responsibility for the attack on the aforementioned sites, which are under the continuous supervision of the IAEA based on the Safeguards Agreement and the NPT.

It is expected that the international community, while condemning the lawlessness based on the rules of the jungle, will support Iran in preserving its legitimate rights.

The Atomic Energy Organization of Iran assures the great Iranian nation that despite the evil conspiracies of its enemies, with the efforts of thousands of its revolutionary and motivated scientists and experts, it will never allow the development of this national nuclear industry, which is the result of the blood of nuclear martyrs, to be stopped.

This organization has put the necessary measures, including legal proceedings, on its agenda to defend the rights of the noble Iranian nation.'

[–] iie@hexbear.net 77 points 1 month ago (17 children)

Is it actually plausible that America might really chicken out? Someone pour water on my optimism if it's unfounded

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[–] whatdoiputhere12@hexbear.net 77 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Trump seemed like he was in a hurry to me

Love that he closed it off with a god bless Israel

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[–] hotspur@hexbear.net 77 points 1 month ago (7 children)

The Atlantic, surprise surprise, is in full consent manufacture mode. It’s so on the nose you can practically see the talking points emails…

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[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 77 points 1 month ago

I'm posting a pre-emptive

DEATH TO AMERIKKKA, THE COLLAPSE OF THE EMPIRE CANNOT COME SOON ENOUGH

before the American bombing campaign starts.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 77 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I know the dems are beyond pathetic but this is - I dunno what to call it - beyond beyond pathetic.

UPDATE, 24+ hours since the Trump-Vance admin bombed Iran:

  • 52 House members signed onto the Massie-Khanna War Powers Resolution
  • 3 Senators supporting Kaine's War Powers Resolution
  • 8 Senators signed onto Bernie's No War Against Iran Act

60 total. 59 Democrats. 1 Republican.

https://bsky.app/profile/premthakker.bsky.social/post/3lsafl4p3pk2l

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[–] LoveYourself@hexbear.net 77 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Al Aqsa Flood war will see the defeat of flagships of the most advanced navy in the history of the human race.

God protect the resistance axis as they continue to humiliate and defeat the oppressors

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[–] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 76 points 1 month ago (3 children)

“When our turn comes, we shall make no excuse for the terror.”

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[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 76 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If I was Trump I would at least have tied John Bolton to one of the bombs

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[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 76 points 1 month ago (2 children)

All this when trump severly sabotaged negotiations with Iran on nuclear weapons in his first term. This will be forgotten with the manufactured consent when the same media outlets praised Obama for making significant headway in those negotiations. This is a clown world

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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Radlibs: OMG this is just 1984 Stasi Kgb

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[–] nasezero@hexbear.net 76 points 1 month ago (5 children)
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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 76 points 1 month ago (7 children)

NYT

Israel will no longer be able to provide its civilians with a 15-to-30-minute warning ahead of incoming Iranian missiles, a practice it largely maintained since Iran’s counterattack began, Lt. Col. Tali Varsano Eisman, an officer in the Israeli Home Front Command. She told N12, an Israeli TV channel, that the military now faces “difficulties in identifying” missiles fired on Israel and recommended that people spend the night in shelters or close to a safe space. She did not elaborate on why.

The Israeli military said in a statement that there are no changes in the Home Front Command’s guidelines, adding that “if there are any updates, they will be communicated through the official channels.”

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[–] smokeppb@hexbear.net 76 points 1 month ago (5 children)

https://apnews.com/live/israel-iran-war-updates#00000197-97b7-dd55-a7ff-f7f7acd40000

The western media are wondering where the actual nuclear material might be since it wasn't in the obviously going-to-be-bombed place. The Iranians used the high tech of dirt in front of the entryway to help protect the facility entrance. There's mention of a super secret facility - a known unknown, if you will - where the real WMDs are hiding.

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[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago (1 children)

US opening with six GBU-57 MOPs and thirty BGM-109 Tomahawks, a military maneuver known in West Point academy lingo as "the US will never have free healthcare"

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[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago (2 children)

iran please strike intel factory in pissrael

I don't remember too much details but I remember it was forced by usa to invest in isntreal to boost isfake's reputation. they were not making processors of any value rn, especially at israhell. bombing them could even force american companies to drop anti boycot laws. who wants a factory near warzone

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago (3 children)

President Trump wants J.D. Vance and Steve Witkoff to meet with Iranian officials later this week

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Is JD going to kill Khamenei?

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago

Venezuelans March to Show Unwavering Solidarity With the Iranian and Palestinian Peoples - Venezuela Analysis

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Iranian Ambassador Ali Chegini praised Venezuela for being on the right side of history in backing his country against Israel.

Mexico City, Mexico, June 20, 2025 (venezuelanalysis.com) – Thousands of Venezuelans marched Thursday in Caracas to express solidarity with Iran and Palestine, calling for peace amid Israel’s escalating actions.

Carrying Iranian flags and images of the Supreme Leader Ali Hosseini Khamenei, demonstrators denounced Israel’s unprovoked attacks on Iran, defending the latter’s right to respond in a firm show of popular support for one of Venezuela’s closest allies.

Venezuelan Interior Minister Diosdado Cabello, speaking to the crowd, framed the protest as both a show of unwavering solidarity with the Iranian and Palestinian peoples and as a rebuke to international silence, especially by the United Nations.

“Iran is the vanguard of the free peoples of the world and we support them to expose that Israel is nothing more than another paper tiger created by the United States,” Cabello said at the demonstration.

The high-ranking Chavista marched alongside National Assembly President Jorge Rodríguez and Iranian Ambassador to Venezuela Ali Chegini, who also addressed the crowd.

“Today we are paying the price for standing with a free Palestine, and we will continue our struggle in defense of our people and territory,” said Chegini, who cast Venezuela as firmly on the right side of history for backing Iran in the widening conflict.

Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has likewise strongly come out in support of Iran’s retaliation against Israel’s offensive that began on June 13.

“Israel was stunned by the military prowess of the Islamic Republic of Iran, which has defended itself in accordance with international law and in legitimate self-defense,” said Maduro Thursday during a televised event.

Venezuela and Iran enjoy an extraordinarily close diplomatic, political and economic alliance, with deep cooperation in various fields, including art and culture, and a critical partnership in the energy sector. The two nations have fostered their ties in recent years to overcome US economic sanctions.

Caracas was among the first to condemn Israeli strikes against Iran. Maduro last visited Iran in 2022, where he signed a 20-year cooperation agreement together with former Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi, who perished in a crash in 2024.

After detailing Israel’s recent aggressions throughout the region—including the genocide in Gaza, its attacks on Lebanon that resulted in the death of Hezbollah Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah, and its role in regime change efforts in Syria that ousted Venezuelan ally ​​President Bashar al-Assad—the president denounced Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s strategy.

“Israel wants full control over the Middle East’s resources, in partnership with US imperialism,” said Maduro.

Opposition leader María Corina Machado has tried to use Venezuela’s close relationship with Iran as justification for US intervention, depicting the country as the most serious “security threat” in the region.

“Venezuela is a real threat to the hemisphere and the United States. It is the only country in the hemisphere, besides the US, with the capacity to build combat drones of Iranian origin,” said Machado on Wednesday.

The far-right politician, who is calling for a boycott of upcoming municipal elections, suggested Iranian drones could fly from Venezuela to attack US territory directly, in Florida. Machado’s statements were met with swift condemnation, with social media users pointing out that other nations in South America have drone technology and that her statements are blatant calls for further US aggression against the country.

The relationship between Caracas and Tehran blossomed under the leadership of former Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, who sought to strengthen ties with other OPEC countries but fostered an especially close relationship with Iran over their shared opposition to US hegemony worldwide.

[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If time actually is a flat circle - we'll get a reboot of this...

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Maduro calls on U.S. people to stop the US government's madness - Prensa Latina

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Caracas, Jun 18 (Prensa Latina) The president of Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro, called on the people of the United States to stop the madness of his government to get involved in the war that Israel and the Islamic Republic of Iran are currently waging.

While participating in the Workshop of the Seven Transformations (7T) with the deputies elected on May 25, in the Ríos Reyna hall of the Teresa Carreño Theater Cultural Complex, in Caracas, the ruler assured that “only the people of the United States can stop this madness”.

I call on the American people, do you want another war, do you want the United States to get involved in the slaughter, in the destruction of the Muslim, Iranian and Arab peoples," Maduro asked.

They want the United States to be marked as the initiator of the Third World War, he added, and pointed out that this is the call he is making from the “pacifist and Bolivarian Venezuela”.

The Venezuelan leader called on the streets, from all corners, from North to South and from East to West, to "raise a single voice in the U.S. nation: no to war!

Maduro recalled the destruction and death every time the United States gets involved in a conflict in the Middle East as it happened in Iraq, where a million people lost their lives, as well as in Libya and Afghanistan.

The Head of State urged the countries that are powers in the region and the world to “sit down and force the Zionist State of (Benjamin) Netanyahu to stop its attacks and to respect International Law”.

I call on all the governments of the new powers: China, Russia, Turkey, the countries of the Gulf Council, the nations of the Global South, but especially the Muslim countries, to “support and accompany the Islamic Republic of Iran in its struggle for peace”, he emphasized.

“That has to be the path, not the path of escalating violence, of deaths, of bombs, no,” he reaffirmed.

Likewise, he reiterated his call to the Jewish people to stop the war and to Netanyahu to “stop this madness of infernal war with all the neighboring countries and of wanting to conquer and colonize the entire Middle East and Western Asia”.

It is a Hitlerian, supremacist and Nazi idea, which must be defeated by the Global South, he stressed.

Regarding the 7T Workshop, the President proposed the creation of a Latin American and Caribbean Parliamentary Political School, with the name of the Venezuelan revolutionary David Nieves Banchs.

This center would aim at contributing to the training of political leaders, he pointed out, and called on revolutionary parliamentarians to prepare themselves to become “a sounding board of the People's Power”.

President Maduro needs YOUR help! maduro-gift

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

Just over 2½ hours ago, the B-2s started crossing the Pacific ocean.

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The fact that they required refueling immediately after takeoff, and took quite long to reach California and the Pacific, suggest that these are fully loaded with ordinance (2x GBU-57 MOP is 60 000lbs), despite using a transit callsign, MYTEE. So they're loaded and ready to go. Could likely stop and be forward deployed at Guam or Diego Garcia. Going to be a very long flight.

According to open source signals intelligence (SIGINT), it's 6x B-2s, two flights of 3 each, MYTEE 11-13, and MYTEE 21-23. Transit flight from Whiteman to Guam for MYTEE 21-23. Destination confirmed for them. Destination unknown for MYTEE 11-13.

MYTEE 21 flt 3 x B-2A WM departed Whiteman to Guam postion 37,39N - 131W @ 09.59z FL 340 block 360 est 37N - 133W @ 10.29z next is 35N - 135W working SFO HF 5574

11.25 MYTEE 11 flt 3 x B-2 WM ?? position 38,20N - 131W @ 10.19z FL280 block 300 estimating 37N - 133W @ 10.42z working SFO HF 5574

Open Source SIGINT Source

MYTEE 21-23 flight path so far

Update: Two mid air refueling aircraft, KC-135 Stratotankers, are airborne to refuel the B-2s. Refueling set to start in half an hour's time according to the NOTAM yesterday just outside the B-2 shaped airspace. They're right on time, very telegraphed movement.

Flightradar link

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[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Washington Post: anti-missile defense against Iran costs Israel $285 million per day.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Pakistan Defence Minister Khawaja Asif responded to a post about a BBC interview with Iran's king in exile saying “grow some balls and go to Iran” and calling him a “bloody parasitical imperial whore.”

Reza Pahlavi is Iranian Guaido guaido

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Uri Misgav-Haaretz: No one guarantees that we will reach "post-war" with Iran. Even in Gaza, we have been drowning for 622 days without an exit plan. Soldiers are being killed, prisoners are abandoned, and shells and bullets kill civilians and hungry children daily who rush with whatever strength they have left toward flour trucks.

Netanyahu's appetite here knows no bounds. Look how quickly we moved from "preventing an Iranian nuclear threat" to bombing a television station and university, and delusions about "redrawing the region" and regime change. What about our own regime? Who will address the destruction, and who will lead life under an endless war of attrition? Netanyahu and Yinon Magal? Miri Regev and Ben Gvir? The Chief Rabbis?

When the opposition and media surrender to Netanyahu and his wars, falling in love with planes and missiles as the only solution to everything, this puts me, as a Zionist and liberal, under existential threat. No less real than Iran's threat.

lmao liberal zionists are hilarious

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[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

It wss just YESTERDAY Pakistan formally recommended trump as nobel peace prize nominee for the india Pakistan dispute. We have to be in a simulation https://xcancel.com/GovtofPakistan/status/1936159807326900577

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[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is what Iran hit with 300 kg of explosive missile this morning: a highly sensitive target.

Aviv (“Av‑Kam”) Research Centre – Israel’s Hidden Technological Hub: 700 personnel

The Aviv or Av‑Kam Research Centre, situated in the Negev Desert near the Dimona nuclear complex, represents one of Israel’s most secretive military-industrial facilities. Although its exact functions are shrouded in official silence, open-source experts and satellite analysts attribute sophisticated roles to the centre:

Close to the Shimon Peres Negev Nuclear Research Center, the site lies within Israel’s broader high-security enclave, protected by multiple concentric perimeters. Analysts believe Aviv supports research and development in radar, sensor arrays, electronic countermeasures, and command-and-control systems—essential components of Israel’s multi-layered missile defence networks, including Iron Dome, David’s Sling, and Arrow .

Missile and nuclear links: Its proximity to nuclear facilities and defence nodes has led to speculation about roles in nuclear command, early-warning systems, and even clandestine nuclear-related R&D—consistent with Israel's policy of "strategic ambiguity" .

The centre likely forms part of a broader tech ecosystem spanning the Negev: it may work in concert with the Israeli Defense Forces' cyber warfare units (e.g. recently relocated to Be'er al-Sabe') and high-tech parks like Gav-Yam and Ben-Gurion University’s tech campus.

Like the Dimona reactor, Aviv is neither officially acknowledged nor described in budgetary releases.

Also Pepe Escobar:

It took ONE Iranian missile - not intercepted - to strike the Negev Advanced Technologies Park in Be’er Sheev and incinerate infamous military intel Unit 8200. Israel used the campus to operate C4i and the Cyber Defense Directorate.

EDIT: with the pictures - it seems more like "Aimed at" then "hit" - its damage is rather mild - and when only one missile was used , that should be its result.

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