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Trump orders ICE to expand deportations in Democratic cities (www.dw.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to c/usa@midwest.social

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Donald Trump took to Truth Social to call on ICE officials to expand efforts to "detain Illegal Aliens" in cities at the "core of Democrat Power Center." It comes after deportations in Los Angeles sparked protests.

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[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 120 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Fuck this guy. He’s just pissed because no one came to his GI Joe-themed birthday party.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Fuck up, wonder if mega happy. Lot of my fucking racist neighbors voted for him because he was going get rid of the illegals. Yet there still here, not single one worried. Because he seems focused only on blue states. It's like he just wants a civil war to hold power not to acutely get rid of illegals.

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Trump is unprincipled. He simply doesn't have convictions beyond selfish gain. The good news is he doesn't truly hate anyone. But he also doesn't love anyone. He has no true sense of worth at all. He is completely ambivalent to all things with one major exception. He is remorselessly opposed to anyone who doesn't contribute to his personal aggrandizement or who stands in direct opposition to his ego. He doesn't give a shit about immigrants "ruining America", because he doesn't give a shit about America in the first place. He doesn't give a shit about crime because it doesn't effect him directly. He doesn't care about jobs because he's never had one and doesn't understand the point. He just follows his nose like Tucan Sam, but instead of fruity cereal, it's prestige he covets. And he's so sick, that becoming president of the United States isn't even enough. Nothing is enough. His sense of self esteem is so diminished and corrupted that he would literally see the earth destoyed if it meant that he felt important for the brief final moments. I truly believe that his whole raison d'être and subsequent global fuckery can be traced to that one single moment that Obama got a laugh at his expense. This is just how petty he really is, and how fucked we really are.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago

What an unfathomable waste he is.

Just such a shame to the entire universe that he has ever even existed in the first place.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

You can press enter a couple times to create

a space. Its kinda cool.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

With you all the way. Someday this will be studied as a turning point in world history:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHckZCxdRkA

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

the actual illegals, he actually stop targeting farms, restuarants,,,,etc. where most of the bulk of undocumented are. the illegimate ones are going to stay hidden, so less likely to even find said illegal, hes going after legal ones.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's not going to win the coming civil war, it won't even be a very long one this time

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know about that. After all he has the US military on his side.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

As fucked as we are as a country, a lot of soldiers won't have the nerve to fire on civilians

Some will, but the disgust from their comrades will make the disgusted even more certain to fight fascism

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

also pissed his parade wasnt distracting enough from the protest news. we havnt forgotten the tariffs, bbb either.

[–] bieren@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

Don’t forget being pissy his deportation numbers are lower than Bidens.

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He isn't even trying to hide it.

It's blatantly political in nature - he is directly targeting blue states in the union. Just damn.

And considering the lawmakers who were gunned down this weekend, it's in pretty horrible taste. But I guess that's a given in all matters concerning him.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yes he isn't trying to hide it because he is currently untouchable thanks to a traitorous house and senate

It's time for us to drag them into the streets ourselves, nothing else is going to stop this rising fascism.

Watch me get banned again for saying this

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 2 weeks ago

Hey, buddy. Suck our collective dicks.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Kill ICE

[–] renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 week ago

A terrorist targets his own country.

[+] DancingBear@midwest.social -14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

In the short term, this will hurt sectors of the economy, but in the long term, won’t this raise wages for pretty much everyone in the blue states / cities they focus on?

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No. They will close down, cut their losses and do something else. While letting everything they grew rot on the ground.

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How? He's attacking minimum wage jobs.

[+] DancingBear@midwest.social -10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Immigrants are part of what makes our country great, so don’t misread me here, but by getting rid of illegal immigrants it would force folks who skirt employment laws and wage laws,

Those folks would still need workers and would have to pay a lot more for their labor…

If there is suddenly a 5% loss or whatever the number of illegal immigrants in that sector or what not, employers will have to compete a lot more for the workers….

Wages would go up for all.

If you do it randomly and all at once, it can really hurt a bunch of sectors of the economy… but over time those sectors will figure how to make it work and the blue states in this scenario will be doing even better than they already are now compared to red states

Edit: I actually got this idea from Bernie

[–] aquafunk@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In florida years ago, when e-verify was being pushed, and tomato farm operations had to verify social security numbers for their employees, they didnt start paying legal/competitive wages- they just left tomatoes on the vines to rot - and then took subsidies and tax breaks for operating those farms at a loss. some agriculture companies just got out of the tomato business altogether.

employers at the largest levels don't care about construction, or farming or whatever- they care about profit. the investors don't care about the work their companies perform- if a sector becomes significantly less profitable because of a lack of immigrant workers, they don't just take a hit to their profits and move on, they pull their investments and find another business to invest in. there will plainly be less construction firms, less farms, less local restaurants able to compete with the chains.

the money in this economy is hoarded by the upper class- they can control how businesses operate, and because the rest of us have limited buying power, our choices are dictated more by what we can afford than what we need or want. demand in this economy has power, but it is easily overwhelmed by control of the supply by purely profit motivated investors.

they dont want to make less money selling higher priced tomatoes, and at the same time, we dont have the available income to budget for higher priced tomatoes, from the largest or smaller farms, and will just shift spending to other cheap food we can afford in our budgets. lots of businesses will close but the investors- who most elected officials serve- will just invest elsewhere, which is why they don't care about the impact on the rest of us. large operations will gobble up the failing smaller ones, consumer options will continue to shrink, and the people we've been exploiting for their labor will lose their source of income.

there will be no industry-wide rise in low wages, just diminishing supply. eventually the tariffs will go, and then supply will be replaced by (even cheaper) foreign production.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It makes smaller farmers get more of the market share….

Most neoliberal concepts of how the economy work are pretty much fabricated wholesale.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately, smaller farmers are nearly extinct due to fed refusal to enforce anti-trust law and Bork (may he rest in piss) ruling that consolidation magically improved the customer experience.

[–] FriskyDingo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In short, no.

The profit motive does not allow for this.

There is a reason red states are trying to choose back child labor laws.

In all honesty, this will probably result in more prison labor and a greater profit motive to lock up more people.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

lol… anything to max profits without any meaningful legislation. I hear you.

We need immigration reform… we’ve needed it since I was on the debate team in high school lmao…

I don’t think there are enough prisoners to make up for the illegal immigrant and under the board wage slavery our country has us in. (A hard working immigrant, for example, is going to maximize the process of picking tomatoes or radishes or whatever it is way better than any prison population is going to do.)

But… I’m going to remain optimistic and hopeful this can push us towards actual immigration reform… deporting undocumented immigrants who have lived hear since before they could speak English, let alone Spanish is fucking stupid.

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't downvote you but in general it's just going to kill industries and make shit more expensive.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

That’s why we need real immigration reform. Illegal workers getting paid unfair wages really is a big problem that is bringing down wages for all

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not in general, no. Likely the opposite, I think, but there are so many complex interactions I wouldn't trust anyone giving a definitive answer.

In general, undocumented immigrants do work that citizens are unwilling to do, and they're generally paid so little that they produce a lot more value than they're paid in wages. So, for example, produce prices will likely skyrocket when they can't get undocumented immigrants picking their produce for cheap. This will squeeze wages up the entire supply chain and, due to inflation, real wages across the whole economy. This will also make American produce less competitive internationally, reducing exports.

The labour instability will also increase business uncertainty, which will reduce investment, which will further reduce economic growth.

Sure, there are a few people who might benefit, but mostly this will just mean there's less total economic output. If people can't hire a house cleaner, they'll just have a messier house and get it cleaned less frequently (or do it themselves, potentially in lieu of doing other paid work). Are you or anyone you know going to move rural to pick lettuce? Or clean houses? Or sew clothing? (Etc. across all the "undesirable" jobs across the economy.)

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

In general, I don’t care whether anyone wants the job or not, it still needs to be paying a living wage.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

Which is why we need immigration reform so we don’t have a class of folks who are really important for our economy who are considered illegal. It’s ridiculous.

But we also can not have the status quo where we are randomly separating families and doing raids and what not. We can’t have what we had before this either, we need immigration reform. It will raise wages and allow folks a path to citizenship.