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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Throwing a few molotovs don't do anything.

Either you do it completely peaceful and try to sway public opinion;

OR

You have to have to actually have enough guns and people on your side to start an armed insurrection and go all the way, I mean like french style, all the way to DC

A half-assed riot is worse than either option.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 5 points 22 hours ago

Historically you are wrong, though. Mixed pressure has value and can be effective... But surely you know that, right?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago

When the riot cops show up, take your protest somewhere else. Play hide and seek with the fuckers, targeting the oligarchs one by one, all through town.

They can be strong somewhere. They can't be strong everywhere. Keep them moving, keep them chasing you around.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You don't even need to revolt.

Just having a fully-armed protest is enough. Cops are pussies when there's a credible threat of violence.

fully-armed protest

Until you go home for the night then they raid your house when you're sleeping and shoot you to death, individually to each of your houses, one by one.

Or just do this. (Now they even have autonomous drones, skipping the the possibility of a human refusing orders)

A show of force doesn't mean anything to them unless you are willing to use that force. Don't threaten action, skip directly to doing the action and surprise them. Don't tell them your plans before executing the plan.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes bever forget the curage they shiwed fulled armed abd outnumbering the shooter at Uvalde. They stood around fir 90 minutes and did nothing.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True.

A friend of mine was a cop for two years in Kansas, and a major focal point of their training is personal safety, which is why you see cops doing nothing in so many of these clear emergency situations. They're trained not to be a hero.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Yeah the most police forces have rule 1 "make it home at the end of the day". We have had police officers fired for not shooting unarmed suspects because "he could have been and that put his fellow officers life in unacceptable danger"

Combine that with killology as one the main way police are trained. You are in enemy territory and every is willing ready and able to kill at any time and the only way you will survive is if you are willing to kill faster. Of course we have a lot a police that are tirgger happy and see everyone who is not police an enemy.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ill sharpen the guillotine

[–] Chromebby@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Get it on tape! Or better yet livestream!

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 33 points 2 days ago

Like Floyd did?

I mean, yes always get it on tape and spread it as widely as you can before they seize it for "evidence", but don't expect anything to come of it.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

The regular media will parrot the party line

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Peaceful LA Protests of June, 2025 worked. We're all talking about it now. If the LA protests weren't peaceful, we would have different talking points for this weekend's protests and protesters would have been killed. This administration wants this.

YSK - That there is a lot of trolling and brigading starting to happen around the LA peaceful protests to start violence. Here is a roadmap from 2015 on how they do it.: https://sh.itjust.works/post/39873361

Also, this:

Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/22/protest-trump-resistance-power

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (12 children)

The media is already treating 4 burned waymos and a dozen police cruisers damaged in a small 5 block radius as the total collapse of order and society.

The media will keep brodcasting lies.

Same as they did during the Civil Rights Movement

Same as BLM in 2020

You are just learning that all these "violent looter riots" for the last 50 years actually were legitimate protests demonized by the corporate owned media.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Funny, the NPR and local news reports as well as the statements from our mayor and governor have emphasized the nonviolent and peaceful nature of the protests. They've noted that even the after-dark vandalism and misbehaving is less than a typical sports-championship crowd. Sure "FOX News" is screaming lies, but nobody is supposed to believe that, their own lawyers said so.

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[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How did they work exactly?

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

Well BLM ended racism and the cops aren't violent anymore. Oh and some of had not bloated budgets for a few months!

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but still…. Protest Peacefully!

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Civil disobedience. Disruption. That's what gets the goods.

Anyone looting should be assumed to be a false flag Proud Boy/Oathkeeper

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[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (32 children)

Well if that's the case, bring rifles. If it's going to be violent and they won't leave us a choice, go off.

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[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 16 points 2 days ago

It's called the imperial boomerang.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So, just go into it with violence in mind, then? What advice is this really giving? Shoot first, because they're just going to lie about it anyway?

Fuck that.

Defend yourself if you have to, but telling people to use violence, just makes what they say about protesters, true. Don't validate them.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

Shoot first, because they're just going to lie about it anyway?

No. Nobody said show up and open fire on every cop you see. Being the instigator will not help anyone.

Show up, present arms to demonstrate that you can and will defend yourself and your fellow protestors should the cops chose to escalate as they have repeatedly done in the past, and proceed to march peacefully until/unless you are attacked. Then, defend yourself as necessary, taking care to not cross the line from defence to aggressor.

Note, I'd recommend some form of body camera as you will almost certainly have to defend your use of force in court later.

[–] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree with you that nobody should participate in protests with the intention to engage in violence, however I think anyone who's going to protest needs to be ready to defend themselves with violence.

Law enforcement won't be the only threat you face.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bringing my hard hat, my gas mask, with extra NATO cartages, an umbrella, a spray bottle with water, back up battery, and a 5 gallon bucket.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When police shoot at unarmed protesters then the protesters need to show up armed.

Police are too afraid to shoot their rubber bullets and gas grenades at armed people, because of the implication that they may defend themselves.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 2 days ago

Generally the occupation force will play coy during day, then escalate with violence after dark.

I am a bit surprised that this time around, they ate not waiting until dark. They are clearly baiting the peasants.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Pre-emptive strikes are apparently kosher now.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Truth. ✊🏼

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