Wait, you Frenchies have 100% pay for ordinary sick leave??? I guess we'll have to get some hi viz vests and a handful of lighters over here.
Edit: is it just for civil servants? Do workers for private companies get a 100%?
this post was submitted on 11 Jun 2025
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It's not uncommon, even in "developing" countries. The USA really is a shithole.
I am from a 'developed' EU country. The first three days of sick leave you get nothing (this accounts for the vast majority of ordinary leaves) then 60% of the 'regulatory base' (which takes out 'pluses' or 'bonuses' that in some trades/jobs make for a substantial part of the wage) till the 20th day from there 75% (again without those extras).
In 22 years of working I've not been paid one single sick day.
Damn. I come from a "developing" third rate country. We've had paid sick leave and paid maternity leave since the 60s I think. Maternity leave was upgraded from 4 to 6 months about 10 years ago.
PS.: you need a doctor's note the day you're back to get sick leave, which you can get for free on universal healthcare if you can wait, or pay for private practice in a private clinic.
Most companies in Spain pay you a health insurance here so that it pays you the rest of your salary. (Besides free private doctor consultations and other stuff).
Every company I’ve worked for in the USA has given 100% pay for sick time, but it’s usually limited to 10 days per year and unused time does not roll over from year to year. Sometimes companies combine sick time and vacation time into one lump of Paid Time-Off (PTO) and in those cases there might be less overall time compared to getting 10 days of vacation and 10 days of sick time, but those hours can roll over from year to year and might need to be paid out or used when you leave the company. Short-term and long-term disability leave I think sometimes goes to reduced pay, depending on what insurance plan they have covering that, but I’ve never used that so I’m not clear on how it works.
Over here it's 80% for sick leave with a doctor's note. I pay 100% because fuck having a sick person at the workplace. Up to 30 consecutive days, the employer pays by law. Recently I think it was changed to "immediately the country takes over" so the employer doesn't have to pay anything, or rather they can get it back immediately. I think maternity / paternity is 100%, similar deal with it being paid out by the government. Sick days off are limited to half a year continuuous, then some other process needs to happen to be kept on the "payroll"?
Oh and yeah, 26 days of paid time off to be spent as you want. Sick time doesn't factor into anything. And lots of holidays that are time off too.
FMLA is what I've heard is used for long term disability, and it doesn't cover full pay and is time limited, I think. I've never used it either so take this with a massive grain of salt.
And you're lucky, most workers in the USA do not get paid sick leave, because that's not in the law.
In Germany you get 100% for six weeks, after which you get 60% and the 60% are covered by the insurance not paid by the employer.
I think it's 100% after 1 to 3 days of sick leave
We still have too many people having kids! What can we do about that?
If I understand correctly (I didn't), ~~everyone got the cut to 90% except woman on maternity leave and pathological pregnancy. They are upset that if a pregnant woman otherwise takes sick time, they will see the 90% pay like everyone else.~~
The headline made it sound like women were getting 90% pay for the entire pregnancy.
Pregnant women get the pay cut on the first day of being sick for something not pregnancy related. Everyone else just gets it starting the second day.
Oh so I didn't understand it correctly. Thank you for pointing it out. The difference between pregnant woman and everyone else is when the 90% pay kicks in.
So in general, people get 100% pay the first day of sick leave and 90% every day following.
They made a special carve-out for pregnant women so they get 90% on the first day.
Yeah that's shitty to go out of your way to hurt pregnant woman.
It is still pretty bad
~~Yeah this title sucks, I got ragebaited until I read the article. They could take a full month off and it wouldn't even be a 1% cut.~~
~~Not that I think ANY pay should be getting cut, I just don't think this is an example of sexism. Why would getting sick while you happen to be pregnant be any different from getting sick while you're immunocompromised?~~
~~Unless you DO get compensated differently for chronic illnesses in France. If so, I take everything I said back~~
I think I was wrong originally. My current understanding is that they did deliberately disadvantage pregnant woman: https://lemmy.world/comment/17597987
That's a really fuckin bizarre rule then.
Is anyone else clicking on an English headline but getting an article in French?
I couldn't find an English article on the issue, so i took a french one and provided the translation as text in the post.
Okay, thanks! I was wondering if it was a bizarre technical issue.