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Image is Israeli interceptors trying and failing to intercept missiles over their cities.


Israel just carried out a widespread bombing of Iran, which has killed a number of senior officials inside Iran (though it seems the leadership is more-or-less intact) as well as a number of civilians. Important facilities have been targeted, but the amount of damage is unknown so far (note that many important Iranian facilities are deep underground, making them both hard to damage but also hard to determine if they are damaged from just satellite imagery, so reports of damage will be he-said-she-said).

It appears the attack took Iran by surprise, given that a residential block was targeted that contained some senior officials - if one saw an attack coming, one would imagine they'd be in bunkers. Nonetheless, like the rest of the Resistance Axis, I suspect that Iran has adapted their military structures to be resistant to decapitation strikes by ensuring that replacement figures are ready to take the place of killed officials.

Iran has delivered a massive missile barrage in response to Israeli aggression, even though Israel is continuing to bomb Iran. Iran is now aware of the location of many important Israeli sites, including secret nuclear sites, due to their recent intelligence haul, giving them a distinct edge.


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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 16 points 31 minutes ago

⚡️⭕️ Pakeh settlement resident to Hebrew Channel 11:

I received my new house yesterday and it was destroyed today in the Iranian missile attack

crab-party Iran doing more anti-colonialism in 2 days than Bernie Sanders in his life

[–] Socialism_Is_The_Alternative@hexbear.net 27 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

A former CIA officer posted his analysis of the situation:

"The Potemkin Village propaganda generated by Israel and spread by Western media is coming apart at the seams. While many in the West still believe that Israel has struck a fatal blow on Iran and that Iran is just days away from a collapse, the Iranian missile force is alive and well and bombing the shit out of Israel. I suspect that Iran is employing Houthi tactics with their ballistic missiles that are fired from mobile launchers — i.e., instead of relying on fixed sites, Iran is deploying its missiles around the country on mobile launchers, which are virtually impossible to detect and destroy in a timely manner. As I write this, Iran reportedly has launched an eighth-wave of missiles. Iran is going to engage Israel in a tit-for-tat battle until Israel ceases its attacks on Iran."

[...]

"Another reality confronting Israel is that the United States does not have unlimited supplies of air defense missiles, and other weapons, to send to Israel. For example, consider the limitations of the THAAD and SM-3 antiballistic missile systems… the US can only manufacture 50-75 THAAD and 60-84 SM-3 interceptors per year! I read another report today — can’t find it now — that the US is sending weapons intended for Ukraine to Israel. I’m sure Zelensky will be thrilled with that news. If this report is true, Ukraine’s days are numbered. Without sustained US military and intelligence support, Ukraine cannot sustain its military operations through the summer."

https://sonar21.com/the-zionists-are-crying-uncle-sam/

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 16 points 39 minutes ago

🗞️🐅

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 14 points 43 minutes ago (5 children)

Is the thread holding together for people? I only access it via computer and directly through hexbear and it's fine for me, but I've seen people say it's getting real slow on phone or through lemmy. I can post next week's thread early if not. Or maybe I'll make it more open-ended than "week" if things keep escalating as they are now.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 9 points 19 minutes ago

Been flawless for me the whole time. One more day remains. At most it'll be a 1500 comment day.

[–] wheresmysurplusvalue@hexbear.net 9 points 29 minutes ago

It's working fine for me right now, but maybe it's because the US posters are starting to sleep

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 35 minutes ago

fine for me from the grad on waterfox pc

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 5 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

Now that we've stopped uploading videos, its a lot better. It was lagging pretty bad for me.

[–] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 2 points 5 minutes ago

Fine on computer and Firefox mobile on android

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 23 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago) (2 children)

So what the fuck did the Israeli government think was going to happen? Whatever the result this is going to be ruinous to both countries, they're just pounding each other.

You can't just eat city blocks being destroyed and continue. Populations get mad, building is easier at peace, soldiers want to help their families etc.

I mean ww2 showed that bombing campaigns don't win wars but they do beggar nations. Are they banking on a martial plan style bailout? The usa is not in the same position economically but I suppose the damage is relatively limited vs Europe.

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 14 points 38 minutes ago

Nation didn't have enough glass so needed their cities converted to it.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 6 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

I honestly think Israel expected worse and was planning for an opening salvo of over 500 missiles and thousands dead. I mean that's what we all expected to happen if Israel were to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities. It didn't materialize, but the Israelis would have had to assume that there was a high chance of it happening, and still chose war anyways. So I don't think leveling city blocks in Tel Aviv will change much. The military and political establishment chose war with Iran no matter the cost.

[–] iie@hexbear.net 6 points 14 minutes ago

if America joins the war officially, any predictions what US forces might do?

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 31 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Wait a goodamn minute, Iran's Fordow nuclear facility is 800 METERS underground???

lmao wtf was the worry about, there's no bunker buster in existence that can even get a quarter of the way through

The Israelis and Americans are delusional if they think they can take out Iran's nuclear program

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 10 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I think the 800m claim comes from a figure of speech from IAEA chief Grossi, it's probably less, but yes it's deeply underground. There's nothing Israel can do to it with their conventional munitions. The only chance conventionally is B-2s with the GBU-57 MOP.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 8 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

Doubt a B2 could get there. The only scenario where that happens will be if Iran have lost pretty much every air defence they have, including the ones they hold back for critical stuff.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 11 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

Given that Israel has air superiority 200km inside Iran from the Iraqi border and over Tehran, I'm not very confident in Iranian air defences at the moment. Israel doesn't even have specialised SEAD aircraft like the EA-18G Growler, and get they were able to accomplish the recent operation over Tehran with cruise missiles/loitering munitions and man in the loop guided glide bombs from F-16s. F-35s and Mossad assets on the ground with ATGMs and FPV drones for the initial operations.

[–] Hermes@hexbear.net 4 points 33 minutes ago

MOP lists penetration as 62m, I doubt its actual penetration is an order of magnitude higher.

[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

For the love of god someone please edit this speech to footage of True Promises II and III: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56vtZsQgAF0

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] LargePenis@hexbear.net 8 points 11 minutes ago

Palestinian poet Tamim Al Barghouti on the current situation:

Netanyahu was betting on a military coup in Iran, relying on those who facilitated the killing of all the martyrs there some time ago: Raisi, Abdollahian, and others... This explains the violence of the strike. He hoped he wouldn't have to bear its consequences. Of course, the coup failed... Netanyahu got involved, asked for help from the United States, but they refused. Now he wants to back down. Let's be clear: no one should allow the situation to return to what it was before the Israeli aggression against Iran... If the war stops before the fall of the regime in Israel, then that Israeli regime will seek to topple the Iranian regime by other means after the ceasefire. The model of the ceasefire in Lebanon is clear, and before it the successive truces in Gaza... Therefore, the only path for Iran, and with it the entire Levant, is complete victory over it... The equation is zero-sum and there is no room for compromise, neither now nor later... Oh God! I hope this opinion is heard this time and is useful... because all the advice before it was appropriate, and if it had been heeded, people dear to us would still be with us now...

[–] sempersigh@hexbear.net 41 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

lol look at this hubris from a few days ago.

how about.... "HOLY SHIT OUR GOVERNMENT IS CRAZY WE JUST ATTACKED A NATION WITH SOME OF THE MOST ADVANCED MISSLE TECH IN THE MIDDLE EAST WE NEED TO STOP THIS NOW"

but nah.... it's crazy to me how they just don't get it

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 17 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Meteor is a sexpestiny stan by the way, I checked his user page

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 26 points 1 hour ago

I mean, they're a zionist settler. That's worse than any online fandom

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 1 minute ago

Critical support to Elon Musk?

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 27 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Shahran Oil Depot in Tehran still burning at morning, after being struck overnight. The fumes from this will be horrible, anyone in Tehran should stay inside if at all possible.

[–] fever@hexbear.net 20 points 1 hour ago

This scene will be probably replicated across both countries.

[–] fever@hexbear.net 22 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Pictures coming out of Israel and Iran look similar to Gaza. Its mutual destruction. I believe the only players in the game are United States and its allies waiting for dusts to settle in Iran to roll in and take the country. Israel is just a card they are willing to risk with.

[–] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 10 points 52 minutes ago* (last edited 52 minutes ago)

Trading "Israel" for Iran to what end? They can't press a button and turn Iran into "israel 2."

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 40 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

lovehow two thirds of portlanders are the most pretentious bsky socdems you'll ever witness and the rest are the closest ppl to actual badass ancom sleeper cell operatives in the country lol

[–] dualmindblade@hexbear.net 3 points 21 minutes ago

Which of them were blasting breakcore at the ice detention center?

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