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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 83 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Bold of you to assume my prints come out the way they're supposed to.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 5 months ago

Or consistent.

[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

From what I can tell from the article, that’s exactly the point. This is not about manufacturer-sanctioned intentional fingerprinting but about every printer making slightly different mistakes by accident that just happen to be consistent enough to be recognizable.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 44 points 5 months ago

Bold of you to assume the mistakes my printer makes are in any way consistent.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I have one of those generic chinese printers. Good luck printing anything on it.

[–] n3cr0@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

On my printers, each print looks differently. The prints sometimes also fail for various reasons. Add a constant process of modifications and I doubt someone can find enough reproducible unique features on the prints, to recognise the correct printer.

[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Reading the article, it seems like the intent of this technology is much more geared toward manufacturing supply chains, rather than saying "this part came from John Doe's Ender 3". As many people have pointed out, consumer/ hobbyist grade 3D printers aren't nearly consistent enough to produce anything resembling something as unique as a true "fingerprint", and when you consider that most printers are modified in some way... There's just zero possibility of it being used in that way.

The only way I could see it being used in that way is trying to prove that this printer printed this part; if they have the printed part, and it hasn't been post-processed at all (sanded, treated, etc), they could reprint the same part on the printer in question and see if it's "fingerprint" is the same. But I'd be pretty surprised if this tech could even reliably say, "this part came from an Ender, this part came from a Neptune, and this one from came from a P1".

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah this is basically just quality control geared towards mass 3d printed parts.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I wish my printer was consistent enough between two prints for proving that two parts came from the same printer.

[–] alleycat@feddit.org 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The technology could also be used to track the origins of illicit goods.

Does that mean ghost guns? That was my first thought when I heard of this tech.

[–] Marvelicious@fedia.io 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think that's the unspoken implication and I'm instantly suspicious of the entire premise. The entire field of forensic science is filled to the brim with things described as "fingerprints" that are not nearly as unique or consistent as the field would have us believe.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

My speculation says yes.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

They'd need Access to the suspect's printer, to print more copies for comparison in order to tell, though, from how the article describes it.

Similar to how they match bullets to the gun that fired it. It's not like it prints a serial number QR code on it or anything

[–] SW42@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Those eyes are staring right into my soul

[–] pianoplant@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This seems like very standard ML. I'm not surprised it works, but also it likely takes a huge amount of training data (i.e. print samples) to recognize a specific machine.

I've done stuff like this. For instance I took a pre-trained model that could identify animals and used reinforcement learning to feed it thousands of annotated images of my cats. After this fine-tuning it could reliably tell the difference between them. Useful? Yes. Neat? Yes. But it's not like it can identify a cat it's never been trained on.

So it's interesting and useful, but not as impressive or useful as the article makes it seem.

Also I'm sure something as simple as changing a nozzle or even what slicer is used would completely throw it off.