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I often hear, "You should never cheap out on a good office chair, shoes, underpants, backpack etc.." but what are some items that you would feel OK to cheap out on?

This can by anything from items such as: expensive clothing brands to general groceries.

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[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 111 points 10 months ago (24 children)

All your basic staples: salt, flour, oil, sugar, pasta, pasta, milk, eggs etc. There's literally nothing to do better or worse, so for god's sake don't pay for the label. Fancy olive oil is nicer, and fancy butter for actually putting on bread is nice too - but for cooking, cheap the hell out.

Get your spices from an Indian / Asian / etc grocer - you can get a huge bag for the price of a tiny supermarket jar, and because they have so much turnover, they'll be plenty fresh.

Store-brand laundry detergent and dishwasher tablets work just fine for me (and dear god you can save a lot on those).

[–] marron12@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago (17 children)

All your basic staples: salt, flour, oil, sugar, pasta, pasta, milk, eggs

It depends. Cheap salt is just fine. And flour, unless you're into baking. But some things can make a difference and you don't necessarily have to pay a lot more for it.

Pasta, for example. Bronze cut pasta absorbs sauce a lot better than "normal" pasta. It looks dull, rough, and pale as opposed to shiny and smooth. It usually only costs a buck or two more. I find it's a big step up taste and texture-wise.

Or butter. The ones without natural flavor taste better. Sometimes it's the store brand that doesn't have added flavor.

And eggs. Orange yolks are way better than the pale yellow ones. But those you do have to shell out for.

[–] GombeenSysadmin@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Wait wait wait. Your butter has flavouring added? Like, I realise I’m spoiled here in Ireland, but fuck mei can’t even picture what that might be

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[–] SpaghettiYeti@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Flour - disagree. King Arthur for baking vs your basic supermarket crap is a tangible taste and texture difference in baking. While you're at it, get a mill and buy organic wheat berries and save money for higher quality l, more nutritious flour. It's literally cheaper to get better quality if you are willing to mill it.

Butter- Same for butter if you're using butter as a spread. It's ok to use cheap stuff in cooking but if it's the main complementary flavor, like butter on toast, treat yo self to some Kerry Gold.

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[–] pastel_de_airfryer@lemmy.eco.br 106 points 10 months ago (22 children)

Smartphones. Most people don't need to buy the latest and greatest iPhone every year.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Going to respectfully disagree here. Outside of my glasses, my phone is the tool I use most often, many times daily. It's worth getting a quality device, and if there's an issue with the current one (battery, cracked screen etc) it's worth replacing. But you're right, it doesn't need replacing just for the sake of newness.

[–] akincisor@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Gonna respectfully disagree back at you. You don't have to get a $100 crapsung, but most people whose work depends on a good phone still don't need a $2000 top of the line phone.

An iPhone SE or Pixel ?a phone is more than sufficient for almost anyone anything more I'm probably going to call opulence.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well the prompt was what are things you should cheap out on. I have a pixel 6, I think it was $600 or something like that? But to me cheaping out on a phone would be like a $100 device.

Because of how often I use it, it's worth it to me to not have bloatware, to have a good camera, for the battery to last, resistant to water, etc.

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[–] guywithadeathwish@lemmy.wtf 23 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I second this, especially with Android you can breath new life into a phone by installing a custom ROM

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I'm on my phone 8 hours a day. Quality counts. Slow is bad. Lacking features is bad. Crappy cameras are bad. Get a good phone. Use it until one of the following happens:

  • It no longer gets security updates
  • There is a new built-in hardware feature that will actually improve the quality of your life because you've been wanting it forever
  • You break it or the battery performance starts to suck too much.
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[–] Cheers@sh.itjust.works 102 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Generic meds vs brand meds.

Brands pay a lot for branding, and thus charge more. The formulas are moderated and regulated by the FDA, so unless you enjoy paying for ads, get the generic.

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 30 points 10 months ago

This isn't always true. The content has to be the same, but the delivery mechanism can be different in generics as long as testing shows similar results

Generic concerta for example, often sucks

[–] Vinegar@kbin.social 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately, generics can vary wildly in efficacy & quality. As @Aradina pointed out, sometimes the encapsulation is different (e.g. extended release coating vs. standard release), but also the form of the drug can differ (e.g. capsule, tablet, softgel, chewable, etc), chemical by-products from different manufacturing techniques may be present in different amounts, and different manufacturing processes can also yield different chiral enantiomer ratios in the end product.

The "same" drug from different manufacturers may vary in effectiveness / side-effects, and brand-name drugs aren't always the best formulations for most patients.

[–] ViciousTurducken@lemmy.one 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Generics are required to be as efficacious as name brand in the US.

I do not understand your point on encapsulation and the form of the drug. Name brands can have different encapsulations and forms within their own line. That has nothing to do with it being name brand vs. generic.

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[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 77 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Medicine: the branded stuff is normally exactly the same but many times the price.

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 16 points 10 months ago (13 children)

When I go to the pharmacy I always ask for the cheapest generic drug product of Ibuprofen or whatever I need, it's a couple of euroes cheaper.

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I switched to the store brand breakfast cereals. Never going back to Kellogg's again. The store brand ones near me are so good. And they're made with better ingredients like cane sugar over corn syrup and shit.

[–] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree, even the ingredients part, except referring to color/flavor additives.

But cane sugar is an utter "word trick" that means absolute nothing. It is just as processed, and is exactly as good for you, as corn syrup. It's an example of "health theater" that companies do with labeling.

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[–] zeusbottom@sh.itjust.works 53 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Tools you’re not sure you’ll need. Harbor Freight tools are super cheap and flimsy, but may be the right choice if you’re not using them often.

If you find yourself using a cheap tool all the time and hating the quality of it, then it’s time to buy something better.

[–] uint32@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I go by: If you are not sure you need a good one, buy the first one for cheap. Of you break it, buy a quality one. You obviously need it.

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[–] Devi@kbin.social 46 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Fashion clothes, if you're getting something that you'll wear for one summer and then never again then Primark is fine.

Salt, sugar, most herbs and spices, it's all the same stuff regardless of brands

Some snacks, often crisps are the same Aldi own brand as Walkers or whatever, or they're perfectly good. Yes we all want some kettle chips sometimes but it's all good, same for jelly sweets, a lot of chocolate, etc.

Hobbies for beginners, if you want to take up knitting then start with a cheap kit and upgrade as you get more serious.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Hobbies for beginners, if you want to take up knitting then start with a cheap kit and upgrade as you get more serious.

This is the big one. If you're starting a new hobby, it's easy to fall into the trap of buying loads of expensive kit because it's shiny and new. Buy the cheaper versions first and learn what you actually need. If you need to upgrade then, at least you know what to buy.

Obviously this doesn't apply to safety kit πŸ‘

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[–] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 39 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Not sure if this applies to the US but for most things you buy from a supermarket the generic supermarket brand is usually just as good or even better than the big brands. And it's usually much cheaper.

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[–] owen@lemmy.ca 36 points 10 months ago (19 children)

Cell phone. A $200 android is extremely fast these days

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Things which are commodity items, such as sugar, all-purpose flour, etc. I buy store brand. The main difference is marketing.

Oh, here's one: Power tools. Yeah I know, I know. But...

here's a Porter-Cable branded 6-inch jointer on sale for $365 at time of writing.

Here's a Craftsman branded jointer being sold for $299.

Here's a Wen branded jointer for $241.

Look at the three of them. They bear a striking resemblance, don't they? Makes sense for the Porter Cable/Craftsman ones, both brands are currently owned by Stanley, Black and Decker...but Wen has nothing to do with them, yet they're selling the same fuggin' jointer. Admittedly without the speed control, but what do you need a speed control on a jointer for?

It's the same tool made in the same factory in China, the cost difference is what logo you're willing to pay for.

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At minimum the cheap ones have lower QA tolerances on components. Sometimes they straight up swap in shittier components (eg: plastic instead of metal, etc).

Not saying you always need the most expensive option when choosing power tools, but looks same != same.

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[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 23 points 10 months ago (5 children)

A rule that I stole for tools is to buy a used or cheap one. If it breaks I buy the better version. If it don't break then I don't need it at all.

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[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Store brand foods are good a lot of times. They used to be garbage, but nowadays they're pretty good.

Frozen veggies instead of fresh is usually okay if you're steaming or roasting.

Automotive parts off Amazon have worked alright; Rebuilt my suspension for, like, $120. That's tie rod, sway bar, shocks, and struts. No issues for the two years since that repair.

A ton of hobbies have perfectly respectable aliexpress alternatives. Keycaps, Fountain pens, 3d printer parts. They rob intellectual property, but I like linux ISOs, so I don't exactly have a history of respecting that type of property.

Software in general can be cheaped out on; I don't think I need to champion FOSS on here.

Refrigerators and washing machines can be cheaped out on, as long as you do a bit of research about their reliability.

Lots of stuff is easy to DIY if you have some work space. Furniture, fish tanks, thermonuclear warheads. Learning to sew is valuable, not because you should make your own clothes -fuck that- but because you can mend the stitching on your current clothes.

Services can usually be cheaped out on. Youtube videos and a can-do attitude can get you through manicures and toilet repairs. Court clerks will sometimes be willing to walk you through basic legal stuff like name changes. Things you should educate yourself about beyond a short youtube video: Electricity, flammability (from heat sources), and anything involving significant pressure (pistons, compressed air, and power washers, mostly.).Also be a little careful with chemical reactions: cement hardening, for example, will produce a bit of heat. Usually this isn't a big deal and you can ignore it, but there have been idiots.The world's information is at your disposal. Provided you've got some common sense, and you never fuck around with the capacitor in a microwave, you should be fine.

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[–] solitaire@infosec.pub 29 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Most people could cheap out on tools and they'd still last. The average person just doesn't use the ones they own very often or work them particularly hard. Really, you're going to know if your usage will require higher quality tools and it's not the average techbro posting on /r/buyitforlife.

Backpacks are similar. If you're just using one lightly loaded for an urban commute there is nothing wrong with cheaping out. Spending more is really for people who are wearing them hard and filling them to capacity.

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[–] J4g2F@lemmy.ml 28 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I "just" moved and now taking care of the garden. I want a small vegetable garden (again) in raised beds.

You have a lot of raised beds kits the cheapest ones are €40 and more expensive ones are €90. I however used pallet collar's at €5 a piece. You don't even have to screw them together just put them down. For some custom size beds I use free pallets. They do take some work however.

Give them one treatment with linseed oil and you can use them for years. They live longer then the cheap kits and just a bit shorter then expensive ones. (Hardwood probably out life them)

Kits for vegetable gardens are most of the time really overpriced. Raised beds kits, tool kits and so on.

If you want high quality tools buy them of course, but starter kits are most of the time just the cheapest ones at a premium. Want hardwood raised beds, just buy wood and not a kit.

I suggest start on the cheap side, see if it your hobby. Buy cheap tools they already least long enough and if they break you know that you maybe want to invest in a premium one. Because you use that tool really often. (Second hand old tools are sometimes a better option of course)

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Cheap/free pallets are used pallets and these have been in contact with so much shit that they should never be used with anything you'll put in your mouth and shouldn't be used indoors either (not relevant to you, just saying)

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[–] bluefishcanteen@sh.itjust.works 27 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Mr. Clean Magic Erasers.

The "generic" name is melamine sponge. These work exactly the same and cost a fraction of the brand name.

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[–] Trollivier@sh.itjust.works 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

I once took a cooking class and the teacher was always "it's not necessary to invest in expensive oils, the cheapest oil will always do for cooking".

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 28 points 10 months ago

"These fries taste like used motor oil?!"

"Thanks for noticing. I took a class."

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[–] mydude@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

-Any clothing/toys for children can be bought second hand, we have a very good site for that in Norway. For example, we bought 8kg of Legos, very reasonable price. Re-use is very popular in Norway.

-If you change food you eat often, it's very important to do some reaserch on the nutrition and sugar.

-Any locally grown food should be supported by bying, if possible.

-Much electronics can also be bought second hand in Norway, since we have strong consumer protection laws. Breakdown on electronic can be repaired within 5 years, usually. But, only if the seller has the receipt.

-Jewelry and stuff isn't nessesary, but buying cheap can be a nagging feeling and perhaps just buy something else for the person you love. Like an experience, trip to the massage/restaurant/etc. Spending time together is much more romantic anyways.

-Don't cheap out on the bed/mattress, you spend about 1/3 of you life there.

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[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Some experiences/adventures can be had for little money. Not for free. But I'd prefer a walk through nature, or a visit to an Irish village at the coast over an expensive guided tour through Dublin.

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[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 22 points 10 months ago

Decorations, jeweleries, basically any nonfunctional items, things that you can live without it, things that you don't have to "use".

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

I'm not sure I'd call this "cheaping out" but unless you can't even afford that or you have a specific reason you need a more expensive one, you should buy mid-range ($200 - $400) phones. The early '10s are over and mid-range is more than adequate for the average phone user. Plus quite a few mid-ranges still have expandable storage and/or headphone jacks.

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[–] vinhill@feddit.de 20 points 10 months ago

Buying previous generation products. I got something like a Braun series 5 instead of the newest series 9, as there isn't that much difference.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (6 children)

If you want a good printer, look for an ex-lease laser printer. It may not be suitable for a whole department to use any more, but good enough for an individual.

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[–] erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Sunglasses. There's very little difference in terms of UV protection between cheap and expensive glasses and at the rate I scratch or break them it would be idiotic to spend a lot of money on them.

[–] Potatisen@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But make sure there IS UV protection. Buying just a dark tint with no UV filter can be very harmful to your eyes.

[–] suodrazah@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And that they are polarised. Only a few dollars more.

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

Decent T-shirts can be had cheap from craft shops. If bought on sale, can be less than $4 each. They come in the normal variations, and one can get various weights online. They also come in a wide variety of colors. Additionally, they don't have visible logos.

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[–] LoveSausage@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago

Buy used stuff and learn by doing. Computer upgrades, smartphone repairs, cars to some extent and a ton of other stuff

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Alcohol that you are supplying at an event. You should always have a good case of beer or wine, or spirits, or the appropriate refreshment for your honored guests, but anything beyond 1st/2nd round should be the cheapest hooch on the planet and it should run out fast. Every social gathering seems to attract booze hounds that will suck you dry, no need to pay premium dollar for their habit.

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[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago

One of the big ones for me is non denim pants. I went through a phase where I got into somewhat more expensive clothes for a bit. Not like flashy stuff, but like just like presumably high quality stuff that wasn't so mass produced and in many cases, specifically made in the the US.

Well for some reason or another a bunch of the pants I bought in that period of time just did not hold up at all. Lots of various problems including buttons falling off, seams splitting, holes in pockets. And not just from one brand either.

Well I buy pants from places like H&M now and they all last me a long time. I've got pants I've owned for 5+ years and worn quite a lot and they're still in great condition. And I paid like $30 for them.

Maybe I had bad luck with the nice pants back then, idk. But the price/value equation does not work out for me whatsoever. I've had somewhat similar experiences with casual button down shirts. My Uniqlo shirts have held up a lot longer than shirts I've spent like 3-5x the money for. But it hasn't been as extreme as my experience with nicer pants.

Stuff like shoes and jackets on the other hand, I prefer to spend a little more for quality.

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