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Tried to support the industry by buying a movie a watch a lot. Well, no more. If I need a pihole just to watch a movie I own, that's ridiculous.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This isn't a EULA in that it still allows you to use the product even if you decline...

This option is available with most modern games these days. They often ask you to click "approve" twice, knowing you won't read either and knowing that you believe that you need to accept both to proceed. When in reality, the second one is almost always optional (perhaps even by law because of laws in the EU).

Still gross. And definitely a major dark pattern, but if people just took an extra 3 seconds to double check, they'd stop sending all of their data to these companies.

[–] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 198 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"It also enables the delivery of advertising content"

They already paid for the product! Double-dipping assholes

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wonder if these people think everyone wants to be advertised to.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 70 points 1 week ago

I don't think they care

[–] natecox@programming.dev 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, I am 100% certain they know that the vast majority of people don’t care and some people really really hate it, but nobody actually enjoys it.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Someone I know who is currently on a pseudoscience and conspiracy theory arc genuinely believes that personalized ads are good because then you can easily buy things you know you'll like

[–] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I've bought things from personalized ads before. But mostly they're annoying. And creepy.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 hours ago

the idea of "just browse the web normally with someone looking over your shoulder taking notes on what you like to then sell you shit - or even better, it infers what you like using magic and can even tell when you're pregnant before you know it yourself" can be nice in some ways I guess, but yeah I agree. no thanks.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

sadly, i too heard that from somebody 🤷

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 41 points 1 week ago

triple-dipping, they also get your data.

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No no, you see. You didn't pay for the product but the license for the product. Now it makes sense, right?

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[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 148 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah I just straight up pirate movies now, I don't even try to hide it from people anynore. It's clear to me at this point that all these companies care about is getting richer by the minute off the backs of the common man, and their excuses for doing so are getting more and more pathetic.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have friends who work in the film industry and they pirate movies and TV shows all the time.

[–] SynAcker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago

Me too. By the time a movie or TV show actually makes it to distribution, most people who worked on it have already made their paycheck and moved on to the next project.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago

What capitalists are doing is intentionally sharpening the contradiction, probably with the goal of a revolution or reform in their favor (as can be seen in the USA right now). The neat thing about sharpened contradictions is that it will inevitably lead to change, the bad thing is that this is a massively organized effort with tons of planning and coordination, and The People:tm: are not ready for it.

Pirating movies is pretty good though. Mainstream media always manages to exploit labor incredibly harshly, to the point of suicide, and that behavior should not be rewarded IMO. Of course there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but one can dream. As an aside, pirated media is also incredibly convenient. There is a great community spirit in the piracy community.

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[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 80 points 1 week ago

Piracy is now better and safer than using "real" discs. Well done, Sony.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 68 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why is your Blu-ray player connected to the internet?

[–] tkw8@lemm.ee 57 points 1 week ago (11 children)

VLC on a Linux laptop. You think my Blu-ray player has the ability to take screenshots?

[–] musubibreakfast@lemm.ee 47 points 1 week ago

Yes, and I assume you wrote this message on your blu-ray player and typed it with your remote

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

You never heard of a capture card?

Can I introduce you to my friend MakeMKV?

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[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does VLC report this? Kinda seems like the sorta thing that only works on actual players.

[–] tkw8@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It tried to. I use an opnsense firewall which caught it. I copied my logs and submitted the domains to a popular dns blocklist and they’ve already been merged.

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[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Welp, blu ray playyæer sure don't need no internet - gimme dumb technology plz

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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The industry will take whatever steps it needs to protect itself and protect its revenue streams ... It will not lose that revenue stream, no matter what ... Sony is going to take aggressive steps to stop this. We will develop technology that transcends the individual user. We will firewall Napster at source – we will block it at your cable company. We will block it at your phone company. We will block it at your ISP. We will firewall it at your PC ... These strategies are being aggressively pursued because there is simply too much at stake. - Steve Heckler, senior vice president of Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc, August 2000

quote from https://web.archive.org/web/20010201204600/http://www.nyfairuse.org/sony.xhtml

via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal

"Pepperidge Farm Remembers" meme, but with the face of Elrond (Hugo Weaving) from the "i was there 3000 years ago" meme. no text

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[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

can we find a way to spoof this so that they think legit physical disk usage is going up?

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Haha no it doesn’t.

unplugs NIC

rips blu-ray with blu-ray drive running old firmware

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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (30 children)
[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

PS3 was one of the first affordable blu ray players right off the bat with internet connectivity

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[–] spizzat2@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can you share which movie this was? I've never seen anything like that.

[–] tkw8@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At least you can watch BDs without a web connection still. For now....

Also, LibreDrive is a thing for hacking BD drives with in order to bypass DRM, but I wouldn't be surprised if that got blocked and/or taken down at some point.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’m still getting justified in my boycott of anything Sony that started in 2005, when they bricked my PC for daring to put a Sony CD in my computer’s CD player! Fucking rootkit.

Yes I’m still holding that grudge and I will not relent, for as long as I live.

Any movie I watch I make sure it’s not a Sony product, any music I listen to, I make doubly sure it’s not from a Sony studio. Any electronics I buy, I make triply sure it doesn’t contain any Sony product. Sony is not getting a dime from me ever again!

Fuck Sony!

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That rootkit thing failed miserably, thankfully, and audio CDs have been DRM-free ever since.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sure, but I'm not touching anything Sony with a 10 foot pole.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sure, but I’m not touching anything Sony with a 10 foot pole.

That's going to discount most of the camera market if not the entire camera market then because Sony makes basically everyone's imaging sensors, plus a large portion of the anime genre given that company bought out Funimation.

[–] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is every company is a Sony now.

So you have to buy from your least hated Sony. You can't just boycott Sony.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 1 points 7 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago)

And even if you do boycott Sony, that'll discount entire market segments and almost entire content niches as I just mentioned.

[–] ehxor@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

Yes! I’ve never met anyone else who’s been boycotting Sony since the rootkit! Maybe there are dozens of us? Either way: fuck Sony!

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

My Blu Ray player has never been connected to the web, its region free, but doesn't do 4k-BD. My Linux HTPC is configured with an ASUS libredrive, and has MakeMKV installed. The Linux variant of MakeMKV is borked right now, in a good way! The 30 day trial period doesn't expire!

If I wanna watch a 4k bluray I have to rip it and watch it on my PC, because I'd rather do that than get a BD player that needs internet

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[–] Twitches@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What happens of you hit skip. Does it not let you play the disk?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago

It let's you continue no problem.

Just like most modern video games these days that have the second agreement after the EULA. They make it seem necessary, knowing 99% of people will see all of the words and just skip to the bottom and hit "accept."

Still gross, but not really the problem that people here seem to think it is.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (6 children)
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[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago

This is the evil shit

[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

The fact that they don't give you the option to "refuse" but rather to "skip" annoys me to such an extent. Leave us alone, you never needed to do this.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

LMFAO. And when I tell people to take care about leaving Jellyfin public with their open API endpoint issues... Yeah Sony WILL abuse your shit... They already do it.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 13 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I run a pivpn setup so that nothing is exposed to the internet at all. It's just too dangerous now. It was bad back in the day, but now I literally have bots trying to join any public facing Minecraft server. It's so many times worse now than it was a decade ago.

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