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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Perfect example of the causation fallacy.

If one were to look at that map out of context, once could say that if the temperature is too cold or too hot, murder rates increase.

We all know of course it's a map of economic disparity, and a whole host of other societal concerns contributing. But without the context of any of those things, we're liable to think that correlation equals causation.

It's an important lesson.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s a map of poverty.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And of Canada and giliad

[–] 0li0li@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh, why is D.C. that much higher than everything else, by a factor of 3-5+?

[–] yuri@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago

i’m not well versed on the causes, i imagine there’s a lot of factors at play. but do i have a friend who lived in DC for a few years, and talking to him about it was whacky.

i have a specific memory wherein he was just walking around outside while on the phone with me and there was gunfire in the background. i said something like “hey should you be outside right now?” and he, VERY CASUALLY replied “nah that’s a few blocks away, i’ll be fine.”

[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Interesting how the lower-population US States have a pretty low homicide rate that tends to increase as the population itself increases but in the Canadian Provinces it's the opposite effect.

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The territories look really bad because they have less than 50,000 population each. So Yukon had about 3 total per year, NWT about 4, and Nunavut 3 as well.

[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Ahhh that makes sense

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't fuck with the territories, apparently.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

There isn't a lot of people up there, so a single murder is more per capita.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm guessing it wasn't a single murder in each territory. A lot of communities up there are poor, traumatised and isolated, which makes people shootier.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With those numbers, no it's not a single murder, but the territories have in the neighbourhood of 45k people each.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

Yep, they're good and empty. Nunavut is actually a bit smaller yet.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

Yup, similar to how one small "city" near me had their stats skewed to look worse than Winnipeg for awhile (the murder capitol of Canada and my hometown) because of one single murder.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I’m going to still not fuck with them, if that’s cool.

It's cool a lot of the time up there, but less so now with global warming.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

That's fine, they need fewer people fucking with them.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

~~But Prince Edward Island is the lowest and it has a relatively tiny population~~.

Edit: nvm, I assumed wrong

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mistaking land mass for population.

PEI has about as many people as do all 3 territories combined. (Quick search, older stats).

[–] LordPassionFruit@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

PEI resident here. As of last year, we've got ~180k people living here.

[–] BinzyBoi@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Okay but that 1.0 score in Quebec is fucking insane.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

Newfoundland & Labrador also stands out as an anomaly, considering it's territory-like in a lot of ways

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Quebec proving once again they’re smarter than BC.

[–] phorq@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or they just have lots of accidents for the greater good...

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

THE GREATER GOOD.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Dre told me Compton, California is the murder capitol of the US, but it doesn't even look like it's close to it.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago

Nah that's New Orleans, and you would've known that if you studied your Lil Wayne.

I'm surprised Wyoming is so low, true everyone is packing out here but the vast nothingness tends to screw with mind

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All those degens in TX and that shit ain’t even red.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well yeah. They keep them largely contained to Austin, Houston, and San Antonio.

[–] goofus@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Detroit's been slacking off lately.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Nobody there to kill anymore.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

typo on Manitoba

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Damn look out for Delaware