God I hope they do. It'll be hilarious to watch how quickly all the incels turn on Trump. Not to mention all the married Conservatives who hate their wives.
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You know what's crazy? The part about feeling shame. There's been some recent studies about a lot of previously diagnosed sex/porn disorders and addictions being tied to shame due to misinformed religious conservative upbringing. If anything, we need to be talking about and teaching more about sex. Not learning about it correctly leads to hangups and shame about the human body, love, and self love that makes you nearly incapable of showing or expressing yourself correctly. That's why all these conservatives are so fucking weird.
The lowest my self esteem had ever been was when I was religious. I'd avoid porn and masturbation for months on end, 6-8 etc, but eventually I'd get a little too turned on and "succumb" to it. I remember hearing peers discuss it as something disgusting, and I considered myself too impure to consider having a relationship.
I won't say my self esteem is amazing now, but I feel much better about myself, and don't think of myself as some terrible sinner who doesn't deserve happiness.
They are also scared to touch their own buttholes to clean them properly. If you talk to any of them, they are against using bidets.
It always comes out the people writing and advocating for these end up the sickest and most twisted sexual deviants out there
This will backfire spectacularly. Red states are bigger fans of porn than blue.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2378023120908472
all the onlyfans workers need to join in from g spot to make G Force and flex some of that wealth if they want to keep that vector of wealth alive.
Is it because they know that Russian porn is better than American porn?
There's SCOTUS precedent saying that pornography--but not obscenity--is covered by 1A. (Obscenity isn't very well defined, but it's generally understood to mean pedophilia/anything involving minors (including drawings), certain acts of violence combined with sex, bestiality, and possibly necrophilia. Other extreme sexual acts--such as crush fetishes--might also fall under obscenity.) You can't pass laws to unspool constitutional rights; your only legal recourse is either stacking the court with people that want to change precedent, or amend the constitution.
This bill is trying to get it all legally classified as obscenity. They're leaning into obscenity already being illegal, they just want to extend the classification to include basically all nudity and porn.
hmmm wherever could we find a bunch of justices that would want to change precedent....🤔
Pretty sure that Alito, Thomas, and Barrett would be all-in on that. Not sure about Goresuch, Roberts, or Kavanaugh.
they 6-3'd Roe. they give no shits about precedent.
Or just do what Trump, his administration, and the Republicans are doing. Move fast, break things, then tell the court 'oops, you're too late.' Trump and the Republicans don't care about the law, they only reason they pass anything through the house is because they want it to have more legitimacy than just a Presidential declaration. If it doesn't pass the house it'll still be the law. Just not on any books.
doesnt even trigger me anymore. tomorrow the legion of dumbasses will come up with something way stupider. place your bets now!
Moon of America? ...been there fIrSt! Annex earth?
it will be stupider!
It would be for 10 hours, then Trump would remove the bill and be seen as an hero. As usual.
After 75% of the country comfits a felony?
Perfect! Now we can send so many more people to El Salvador!
If you think the porn industry is exploitative and abusive now, just wait until they push it all underground.
The studios will move out of the country, most likely.
Some will. But like with alcohol prohibition, many of the people who work in the industry will just go to work in the black market.
I suspect the OnlyFans crowd may do that.
Most definitely. And since their entire job is illegal, why not go all-in and do more illegal stuff on cam for higher pay? That would be my thought process.
Given how little the vast majority of creators make on that platform, I suspect most of them will just quit.
There will definitely be a few that keep going though, I wonder what the penalty will be? And how much enforcement will there be?
I’m pretty anti-porn just like I’m very anti-religion but neither of these things can be killed by banning them. The idea that banning porn will somehow prevent people from accessing it when we know even people in NK or places like the Middle East can access it is just crazy, of course Americans will continue to be able to access it, and like you said this will just push production and distribution underground actually exacerbating the issues with the porn industry. I have few actual complaints about the end result of porn, I don’t believe it’s good or healthy but as a product to be consumed it’s only moderately harmful but the production of porn is where the real evils are found. This will lead to those in the porn industry being abused at rates and in ways currently unfathomable or illegal.
Just think about the popularity of the "schoolgirl/barely legal" image as it currently exists in porn. If it becomes just as illegal to hire a young-looking 25 year old actress as it is to exploit an actual child, a lot producers will opt for the latter.
Woah, that's a thought that hadn't occurred to me. You're absolutely right.
This is true about almost every vice. That's why Prohibition didn't work. Almost as soon as alcohol was banned, people started making very adulterated products, people died, organized crime became a thing. It's the same idea with cannabis, sex work, other drugs, etc. The result of prohibition is almost always people getting hurt.
This is exactly it. A couple of days ago there was an Ask Lemmy thread about the legalization of marijuana. My entire argument is "Prohibition of vice does not work and only empowers organized crime." This has been proven over and over again throughout history. It shouldn't even be a question anymore.
It’s more complicated than that. It /did/ work in some sense. The prevalence of severe alcoholism was insane prior to prohibition and it dropped precipitously. The problem is, the cost of prohibition is so many actual lost lives. Both from unsafe supply and organized crime.
A public health approach also can reduce the harm of alcoholism while not creating new deaths. It’s worth understanding the difference so we can expect, for example, pot to become more abused after legalization, but if public health measures are in place, limited harm.
Nothing that you said contradicted anything that I said. We are agreeing.
Someone should make a bunch of AI generated porn of Mike Lee being gang banged by like 40 huge black dudes and post it all over Facebook.
At this point, US politics has gone far beyond the point where we can make jokes about morons voting for the face-eating leopard party. Anybody who didn't vote for Kamala Harris because she wasn't critical enough of Israel, didn't do enough for LGBTQ rights, didn't have enough left wing policies, etc. is now reaping what they sow.
The election was rigged. Stop dividing.
You sound as bad as Trump now with the whole "electoral interference" allegations.
And before you call bullshit, why is it only bad when he says it?
Well yeah, they're fuckin' morons. The same thing almost happened to Canada, had Poilievre ended up winning.
Oh wow, I hope they do it. Nothing is going to upset the MAGA crowd faster than losing access to the trans pornography they view in the privacy of their own homes while condemning publicly. I'd imagine a lot of them are not going to understand VPN.