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I just found out I can buy a decent 400W solar panel in the local hardware store for around 90€ these days.

Are there people around with experience in off-grid solar? There is quite some supply in cheap MPTT charge controllers on the internet. And I can't afford a 700€ power station. But I would be able to buy a few power tool batteries or one of the lead-acid batteries people put in their caravan. Are there projects building a power station myself? Is this even worth it?

Maybe someone alredy wrote a blog post with recommendations or findings and failures along the way. Or has something similar running at home?

(Thanks to the mods for steering me towards the correct community.)

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[–] abeorch@friendica.ginestes.es 1 points 2 hours ago

@hendrik What is this Powerbstation thing? Its just solar panels + charge controller + batteries and some cables. If you must get an inverter but use it only when you absolutely must. Much better is Dc to Dc conversion for most electronics.

[–] Numse@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I believe it is worth it, but you will have to invest some of your time in research. You need to understand how to properly size your system. For example the MPPT is sized, not only to the specs of the solar panel array (or single panel in your case), but also to the nominal voltage of the battery bank (12V vs 24V). Then, if you want to use that power, you will need an inverter. It is all doable but all-in-one power stations are becoming cheaper and cheaper. You could look at refurbished or wait for sales. It's not much more than a DIY setup. If you do opt for DIY, I would use lithium batteries. Initial cost seems higher but they are ultimately cheaper and safer over time. There are several low-cost brands today that sell lithium close to led-acid prices (li-time, watt-cycle).

[–] Numse@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I haven't really explored other chemistries because bulkier was a no-go for me. But you also may want to look at discharge profiles. Lithium (LifePO4) have a nice linear discharge rate, so you get nice constant power until the end (think power tools: they work, they work, they work, the battery is dead). Also, if considering other chemistries, you need to also know the charging profile and determine if the MPPT can produce that profile to charge your batteries.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What about sodium batteries? Aren't they a bit bulkier but cheaper and safer?

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Finding a charge controller and inverter that's compatible with the voltage of sodium ion batteries will be difficult.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

They sell them on AliExpress.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are those already in mass production and available to random customers? All I can find are a lot of recent news articles, very few manufacturers and very pricey batteries.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I don't know the volumes but you can get them on aliexpress in lots of form factors, like 18650 or bigger blocks.

No idea how price competitive they are.

[–] Vimana@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

I would also add to make sure there's a good battery management system (BMS).

Apparently very easy to build your own lifepo4 battery bank using (prismatic) cells connected in series and extremely cheap to diy- huge power for much much cheaper than trying to afford a higher power battery. This is my next upgrade.

Works extremely well if using LEDs etc Victron energy has all the info. My project was to upgrade power on my old (fixer upper) boat so I only needed 12v info Delighted with result.

Plenty of info around once usecase gets more specific... I focused on sailing specific forums etc I mean... Envision LiFePO4 315Ah Prismatic Cell (Grade B) for less than £50

https://www.fogstar.co.uk/products/envision-lifepo4-315ah-prismatic-cell-grade-b?variant=53483558732153&country=GB&currency=GBP&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17176519818