You can judge a man by his enemies.
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If Nazis don't like something
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Two shitty delusional cult leaders hate each other.
the catholic church is an institution that is rotten to its core, even when fascists hate the guy at the top
Appreciating that the Church will be anti-republican and leaning ever so slightly more into liberalism can exist alongside the Church’s history.
I’ll never be pro-religion, but we n ed to take a win when we can.
A book I was just reading told a story of how the Massachusetts church was trying for a long time to build more affordable housing, and basically got blocked out by NIMBYs and white patriarchy. So, given recent media, I’ve found them to sometimes be okay.
I don’t think we should be surprised their pro-zionists in the Bible Belt are psychopaths molesting children though.
It's weirdly cloying, right? Amid all the negative press, the catholic church is on the whole responsible for a shocking amount of good in the world. Personally, a catholic hospital waiving the cost of a (really extravagant) medical disaster is both the only reason I'm still alive and not living in crippling debt as a result. Sometimes they do, in fact practice what they preach, and that's awesome.
That ain't the big-c Church, though. Their socially regressive attitude alone has inflicted more harm than all the good they've ever done, and that's just one of the minor things they're responsible for. It's important to keep in mind that individuals doing good works don't represent the absurdly draconian institution they're a part of.
It’s all just fluff and disingenuous crap. Take the last one, Francis. He pretended to be soooo humble because he slept in a nice cottage still in the disgustingly opulent Vatican instead of the even nicer pope bedroom. As an absolute monarch he had the power to dismantle the entire system and give away the wealth to the previous victims of the church to make amends. But he didn’t. This one will say a bunch of nice stuff about migrants, but when the rubber hits the road nothing will change. And they’ll still force every one of their poor members to pay a 10% income tax while burying more gold in the Vatican.
he had the power to dismantle the entire system
One guy vs a globe of catholics? I realize he's supposed to be the voice of god and all, but... I just don't believe this.
It's an old conservative scare-mongering line that's really cemented itself in the cultural consciousness - the idea that the pope is an absolute ruler and all catholics must do as he says was spread around (well, throughout all of history but specifically in the US) to turn people against JFK, a catholic. We can't have a catholic president, that'll put the pope in charge of the country!!
Reality is that the pope has a shitload of soft power and could start to implement reparations least at some level (and yeah, utterly dick move not to have done that, Frank...). Broad picture, canon law is beyond arcane and there's plenty of restrictions on the actual "money spending" powers of the papacy. The requirement for charity is probably the biggest one, but there's also the requirements for upkeep of the various shrines/churches/sites(?)/the holy see (obvs) as well as having to provide support for the many many agents of the church.
The capital R is very important in your comment.
These people would literally crucify Jesus again if he came back, even with absolute undeniable proof that's him.
even FASTER with absolute undeniable proof that's him
Well yeah, he would be black and therefore clearly a member of MS13
Omg, how funny would it be to popularize portraits of Jesus with MS13 on his knuckles in Calibri typeface.
quick get rid of the evidence
what evidence
the evidence that we were wrong
Jesus: "The fuck is a border?". "What do you mean rich people, how could there be poor or desperate people?". "You created projectiles that explode and kill people? I thought you torturing me was supposed to be the end of this shit?".
...this is hopeless, I'm going back to heaven, see none of y'all there
Flip them tables
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Unfortunately really not a high bar.
Normal person: We should improve society somewhat.
MAGA: ~~Woke.~~ What is wrong with that person? Why are they aware of issues that we face as a society? We need to put a stop to this by voting for a guy who's never lived an ordinary day in his entire life.
Also MEGA, it doesn't matter anyway because I hate who I'm told. Even if I don't know why. Knowing things (anything at all) is what the libs want.
Don't let them off that easy.
They were hating minorities long before Trump came along. He just taught them that it was acceptable.
Somebody should really report these MAGA people for their anti-Christian biases
Fundamentalist protestants hate Catholics almost as much as they hate Jews and Muslims.
The evangelicals I know deny that catholics are even christian. I understand it's some stupid wordplay - they call themselves Catholic instead of Christian therefore they aren't Christian. We don't self identify as a denomination, simply as Christian because obviously we are the correct, default choice.
It’s not ridiculous for Protestants to say catholics aren’t Christian. Protestant movements came about because they believed the Catholic Church wasn’t teaching the word of God. It’s not a coincidence it came about at a similar time to the printing press.
As people became more literate they started to learn the contradictions between the priests and the bible. The reaction to this resulted in movements that preached personal relationships with God and rejection of false profits (worshiping popes, saints etc).
If your not aligned with either of these religions is seems ridiculous. The reality is you can’t think Protestantism is the correct path if you believe Catholics are Christians. This is the same for many religions, they mostly claim they are right and everyone else is wrong.
The above doesn't track. Every sect of Christianity thinks its the "true" sect, but you aren't likely to see a Methodist claim an Baptist isn't Christian. They just claim they aren't following god correctly.
Attempting to remove catholics or even mormons from being "Christian" at all is just a push to de-legitimize them as religions entirely. It's not reasonable, it's hateful by design, an intentional "othering."
Mormons are non-trinitarian, so I'd say people trying to claim that they're not Christian have a much better case than protestants saying Catholics aren't Christian.
They believe in the same god, son and the holy spirit, but believe they are separate-ish, yes.
I think that's just a case of degrees of "how we see the same god," so i'd call that a pretty weak argument, honestly.
I don’t think you got the central point. Protestants exist to protest Catholicism. A Protestant that recognises catholics as Christian’s wouldn’t be a Protestant.
Different sects of Protestantism are able to recognise other sects as Christian’s because a central tentant of Protestant practice is the personal relationship with God. So different sects of Protestants find that easier to accept. Where as Catholics practice a relationship with God that is tied to the organisation and the Pope.
Mormons are arguably a different religion altogether. Similar to how Jewish/Christian/Islam all share similar but different religious texts making them all different religions.
The intended outcome is othering.
You misunderstand reasonable. It does not mean good, more the natural conclusion given the context.
One group that INVENTED their version of Religion, hates that other group who invented a slightly different version of the same Religion that uses the same reference book with all the same cast of characters. Its like one theater troupe wanting to murder another theater group because they disagree with their costume choices in the exact same play.
And ALL of it is a fantasy, supported by stories made up by neolithic goatherders to pass the time.
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Is that because he's not trump? Were there MAGAts who genuinely believed that trump even had a chance?!
Wait, never mind, of course MAGAts thought trump had a chance, they don't live in reality.
I think it's because on social media he has criticized Trump and vance
They really are weird little snowflakes, aren't they?
🌎👨🚀🔫👩🚀 Always have been
Tbf reality is a horrible place, especially now. Source: I live there
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He has said some anti lgbt and anti feminist stuff. But also, he has said anti capitalist, pro worker's union, and pro immigration stuff.
So basically turning around the MAGA philosophy? They hate everything vaguely leftist, even if it's food for them. Like bicycle paths, renewable energy, unions, taxing the rich, universal healthcare, etc. Not really a good way of looking at things.
It must be a coincidence that all of the things on that list would be to the minor detriment of the wealth of billionaires and trillion-dollar companies if they were implemented
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