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Remember when he was losing the primaries so bad it was almost sad, then the leading democrats inexplicably started stepping down and endorsing him rather than anyone else as soon as they started losing against Bernie? One by one, they gave us Biden instead of who people were actually voting for.
I really wish we had ranked voting. We still might not have ended up with Bernie, but we definitely would have ended up with someone more people would have been happy to rally behind.
Oh I remember. I also remember being called a sore loser for pointing out how they rallied around the milquetoast racist.
Its funny that people say democracy is dead in America now, when I can recall in my life SuperPACs, fuckery of primaries, gerrymandering, the two parties suing to get third parties off in state and local elections, and more things that any sane democracy would never have.
He should have dropped out so much sooner and gave us time to elect a proper candidate he fucked up massively just for his ego
As far as I'm concerned he's this century's Benedict Arnold. He didn't push when Trump broke the norms during transition, he didn't push when an insurrectionist walked free, he didn't get the fuck out of the way like he promised, he didn't read project 2025 and try to shore up any government agencies or educate employees on how to resist his tactics, he didn't order any recounts or audits, and he didn't leverage any of his new "King powers" to either stop the transfer of power or force Congress' hand to limit Presidential power. He's the poster child for how NOT to fight fascism.
Wasn’t Benedict Arnold a straight up traitor? I feel like Neville chamberlain is more accurate as Biden just kept giving concessions and appeasements
No. Chamberlain was foolish and hoping to keep his country out of war. Biden refused to fight fascism and handed it over in a silver platter. Biden did more to elect Trump than Elon Musk. Biden is the biggest traitor in American History and single handedly did more to destroy it than any other person, country, or organization. Trump, The GOP, or Osama Bin Laden.
Biden is the biggest enabler of Fascism in the modern world.
Wouldn’t that make Trump the biggest traitor?
Arnold was, and every time Biden opens his mouth it sounds more and more like he fed us to the wolves.
That’s why I am saying chamberlain. Benedict Arnold actively attacked the U.S. while chamberlain just failed to stand up to nazis and let them advance
Biden says he could've defeated Trump — and wasn't surprised by Harris' loss
Ah, so he thinks the thing he did that went so badly was bowing out of the race and letting Harris try?
Democrats should have had a real primary.
It surprising how much push back, and how many down votes I got from people here, when I said that more than a year ago.
I'm glad now in hind sight it's apparently obvious to everyone.
They'll push back just as hard next time don't worry. If liberals learned from their mistakes they wouldn't be liberals.
Underestimating your enemy is often a fatal mistake
Yeah but I'm not sure how that's relevant to my point.
In 2016 or 2024?
2020
You're right, it's a threepeat. DNC was fully captured post wallstreet protests.
I think they would have won if they did. That was the number one complaint I heard from swing voters I know. They were upset that Harris was appointed to run and felt it was undemocratic.
Of course they voted for the fascist or abstained from voting so the fascist could win. Not the brightest bunch. Sure you have a reasonable point with primary, but it really didn't make Trump a good choice all of a sudden.
Bernie not being the candidate in 2016 was the first problem. It compounded after that.
IIRC, Biden was fourth in the primary when Obama told the other establishment candidates to drop out and rally behind Biden because it looked like Bernie might win.
There’s footage of Buttigieg telling the press that he’s redirecting his plane to go concede on the way to a primary he had a chance of winning. Again, IIRC Warren stayed in the race to split the progressive vote.
The Democratic Party being bought out by a slightly less offensive class of billionaires for decades eroded their ability to understand anything approaching the lived experience of actual Americans.
The biggest joke is that their Silicon Valley billionaire supporters were the first in line not only to go full Nazi, but also to fix elections against them.
I'm happy to trace this issue back to the founding fathers, but Bush v Gore was the beginning of the end in my opinion.
Regan was awful, but how did Nixon get elected before that and so on? At a certain point there's a direct line between compromises made during the drafting of the constitution and where we are today. I don't know where we can realistically draw the line. They saw the problems back then, even warning against two party systems.
What happened with Sanders was just evidence of an already compromised system, and thinking about it now I don't know that much would've been different. The Trump apparatus was already firmly in place.
I blame a lot of the problems on The Third Way Democrats, like Clinton. Basically they tried to take Republican talking points and the Republicans just went more right. It's also when we got policies like NAFTA which destroyed US manufacturing, emptied a lot of rural and working-class areas, and weakened the Dems connection to labor.
But like you said, we can keep going back and back, to the US reliance on capitalists and imperialism that made these policies inevitable, the failures of Reconstruction, or the compromises made with slave holders back with the founding fathers, etc.
"I’m happy to trace this issue back to the founding fathers, but Bush v Gore was the beginning of the end in my opinion."
I share similar sentiments except with Citizens United V FEC instead of Bush V Gore. I can't imagine any meaningful change without removing private money from politics and I don't see how anyone can realistically remove private money when it's ruled to be protected by the first amendment...The only avenues I can think of involve packing the court or passing a constitutional amendment. Packing the court would require only slightly less cooperation from congress than an Amendment.
I hate to stress a point, but Bush v Gore was 2000, and Bush elected two Supreme Court judges that would then go on to decide citizens United under a Bush appointed chief justice.
I don't know if things definitely would've gone differently, but I imagine there would at least be different judges in place.
Well put. That was the moment we were shown they would try and bend our democratic process and they should have all been on their ass then.
No shit, old man. You should have stuck to one term, or I don’t know, better yet fired Merrick Garland when it was clear he wasn’t up to the job of actually prosecuting Trump for the thousands of criminal transgressions.
I see, not because he effed up and used Americas power to back a genocide, not that. It was because he was "in charge". He cant even give Harris the authority to own her own loss by her choosing to run on his unpopular policies. Grandpas got a giant ego on him. Someone needs to drop him back off at the rest home.
Whoa. Got any more bombshells for us, President Obvious, or are those heading for Israel?
It’s like he does know, but also doesn’t. Dense AF
Dementia does that.
No fucking kidding. Fucking over the primary while letting Israel genocide on US taxpayer dime without any pushback was a real great campaign...
History will not remember him kindly
It fucking sucks that Trump won but also be grateful and cherish that the side that you're totally not against has the capability of admitting fault.
Fucking what? Lmao
Too fucking late to realize that, twat.
No shit Sherlock! Now you got any solutions to the problem? Preferably one that doesn’t involve invoking rules 9 or 556?
Thanks, Obama. /s
I miss having a president who takes responsibility.
Except he immediately deflected after saying that.
Well he didn't in office, only out of office. He's accepting blame and accountability now when Trump is destroying everything.
If he kept pressure on Trump and got him in jail, we wouldn't be in this mess. Maybe a different one that the Project 2025 people would brew and groom into their role, but Trump has a cult that wouldn't accept a new face.
I miss having a president. Namely, president as described in the Constitution.
Joe, please just go home and continue jerking off to dead Palestinian children you piece of shit. Leave us alone to suffer through the wreckage of your failures.
Joe go enjoy your life. Put your pride on a shelf and just enjoy yourself you don't have many sane years left.
*directly responsible to the point of complicit
This is what happens when coups go unpunished
Duh, and I cannot stress this enough, doy.
No shit.
Yeah, now do something about it. Action over apology