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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 hours ago

It fucking sucks that Trump won but also be grateful and cherish that the side that you're totally not against has the capability of admitting fault.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I see, not because he effed up and used Americas power to back a genocide, not that. It was because he was "in charge". He cant even give Harris the authority to own her own loss by her choosing to run on his unpopular policies. Grandpas got a giant ego on him. Someone needs to drop him back off at the rest home.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 80 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

As far as I'm concerned he's this century's Benedict Arnold. He didn't push when Trump broke the norms during transition, he didn't push when an insurrectionist walked free, he didn't get the fuck out of the way like he promised, he didn't read project 2025 and try to shore up any government agencies or educate employees on how to resist his tactics, he didn't order any recounts or audits, and he didn't leverage any of his new "King powers" to either stop the transfer of power or force Congress' hand to limit Presidential power. He's the poster child for how NOT to fight fascism.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 34 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Wasn’t Benedict Arnold a straight up traitor? I feel like Neville chamberlain is more accurate as Biden just kept giving concessions and appeasements

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Arnold was, and every time Biden opens his mouth it sounds more and more like he fed us to the wolves.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

That’s why I am saying chamberlain. Benedict Arnold actively attacked the U.S. while chamberlain just failed to stand up to nazis and let them advance

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago

Too fucking late to realize that, twat.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Bernie not being the candidate in 2016 was the first problem. It compounded after that.

IIRC, Biden was fourth in the primary when Obama told the other establishment candidates to drop out and rally behind Biden because it looked like Bernie might win.

There’s footage of Buttigieg telling the press that he’s redirecting his plane to go concede on the way to a primary he had a chance of winning. Again, IIRC Warren stayed in the race to split the progressive vote.

The Democratic Party being bought out by a slightly less offensive class of billionaires for decades eroded their ability to understand anything approaching the lived experience of actual Americans.

The biggest joke is that their Silicon Valley billionaire supporters were the first in line not only to go full Nazi, but also to fix elections against them.

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 15 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I'm happy to trace this issue back to the founding fathers, but Bush v Gore was the beginning of the end in my opinion.

Regan was awful, but how did Nixon get elected before that and so on? At a certain point there's a direct line between compromises made during the drafting of the constitution and where we are today. I don't know where we can realistically draw the line. They saw the problems back then, even warning against two party systems.

What happened with Sanders was just evidence of an already compromised system, and thinking about it now I don't know that much would've been different. The Trump apparatus was already firmly in place.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago

I blame a lot of the problems on The Third Way Democrats, like Clinton. Basically they tried to take Republican talking points and the Republicans just went more right. It's also when we got policies like NAFTA which destroyed US manufacturing, emptied a lot of rural and working-class areas, and weakened the Dems connection to labor.

But like you said, we can keep going back and back, to the US reliance on capitalists and imperialism that made these policies inevitable, the failures of Reconstruction, or the compromises made with slave holders back with the founding fathers, etc.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 hours ago

Well put. That was the moment we were shown they would try and bend our democratic process and they should have all been on their ass then.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 94 points 15 hours ago

Biden says he could've defeated Trump — and wasn't surprised by Harris' loss

Ah, so he thinks the thing he did that went so badly was bowing out of the race and letting Harris try?

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 100 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Democrats should have had a real primary.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

I think they would have won if they did. That was the number one complaint I heard from swing voters I know. They were upset that Harris was appointed to run and felt it was undemocratic.

Of course they voted for the fascist or abstained from voting so the fascist could win. Not the brightest bunch. Sure you have a reasonable point with primary, but it really didn't make Trump a good choice all of a sudden.

[–] Steve@communick.news 36 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

It surprising how much push back, and how many down votes I got from people here, when I said that more than a year ago.
I'm glad now in hind sight it's apparently obvious to everyone.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They'll push back just as hard next time don't worry. If liberals learned from their mistakes they wouldn't be liberals.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Underestimating your enemy is often a fatal mistake

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 12 hours ago

Yeah but I'm not sure how that's relevant to my point.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago
[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 28 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Whoa. Got any more bombshells for us, President Obvious, or are those heading for Israel?

It’s like he does know, but also doesn’t. Dense AF

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

Dementia does that.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 61 points 16 hours ago

No shit, old man. You should have stuck to one term, or I don’t know, better yet fired Merrick Garland when it was clear he wasn’t up to the job of actually prosecuting Trump for the thousands of criminal transgressions.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 39 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

No fucking kidding. Fucking over the primary while letting Israel genocide on US taxpayer dime without any pushback was a real great campaign...

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 7 points 10 hours ago

History will not remember him kindly

[–] softcat@lemmy.ca 28 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'd be more interested in hearing what he thinks Democrats should be doing to oppose Trump and rally support among the American people. If they implement the exact opposite of every suggestion he has, there's a chance in 2028.

[–] Whats_a_lemmy@ponder.cat 19 points 16 hours ago

Had us in the first half

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 13 hours ago

Thanks, Obama. /s

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

Joe, please just go home and continue jerking off to dead Palestinian children you piece of shit. Leave us alone to suffer through the wreckage of your failures.

[–] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 15 hours ago

No shit Sherlock! Now you got any solutions to the problem? Preferably one that doesn’t involve invoking rules 9 or 556?

[–] DarkGamer@fedia.io 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I miss having a president who takes responsibility.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 19 points 15 hours ago

Except he immediately deflected after saying that.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 14 points 14 hours ago

I miss having a president. Namely, president as described in the Constitution.

[–] Kurious84@eviltoast.org 8 points 15 hours ago

Joe go enjoy your life. Put your pride on a shelf and just enjoy yourself you don't have many sane years left.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Duh, and I cannot stress this enough, doy.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago
[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, now do something about it. Action over apology