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VMware perpetual license holders receive cease-and-desist letters from Broadcom (arstechnica.com)

submitted 1 day ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 18 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

This is why KVM is a good option, or even Hyper-V for Windows hosts. The only problem with KVM Is graphical support for paravirtualized drivers is basic at best with no full 3D acceleration that I know of for Windows guests; virtio-win isn't exactly the best option graphically and QXL to my knowledge is even more lacking, but one can just pass a hardware GPU through over vfio-pci for that.

Unfortunately for Mac hosts, Apple has no KVM/Hyper-V equivalent so your best option for virtualization there is Parallels.

(and it's honestly kinda stupid that Apple can't build their own KVM equivalent into the Darwin kernel which macOS is based on)

[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 16 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Proxmox is the way to go in businesses right now to replace Vmware

[–] one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

I would argue for Apache Cloudstack personally.

Though I have used and like Proxmox as well.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 3 points 10 hours ago

And virt-manager is pretty solid for hobbyist tinkering too.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 245 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Threatening to sue your customers is such a brilliant business move.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 110 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's also the business model of Oracle I think and they are wildly successful.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Who are Oracle's customers?

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 day ago

MBAs

[–] pyr0ball@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone who uses Oracle DB or virtualbox in a corporate environment

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm forced to work with Oracle databases, FML I hate it so much

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Why? I get that the company is awful, but the database is quite good, isn't it?

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Not only is it worse than Postgres by almost every metric, they actively sue people who criticize it. I.e. even Hacker News took this post down: https://archive.is/ryseO

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 35 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I think it had something to do with Broadcom wanting to go for a few big customers and don't want to deal with the small fry anymore.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

It's a valid business strategy to kick your low-paying customers to the curb and focus on the big spenders. Did the same with my little PC business back in the day. The small fry cost shitloads to support and are generally more bitchy.

But HOLY shit did Broadcom kick 'em down. I've never seen such an in-your-face business move to squeeze the cash cow as hard as possible, tank the company, grab the money and run.

People can say, and have been from day-1, "I'll never use their shit again!" That's fine with Broadcom, it's literally their plan.

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[–] Jestzer@lemmy.world 105 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

This is another good reminder to not use VMware nor VirtualBox for any reason.

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m out of the loop. Why not virtualbox?

[–] seanom@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago (16 children)

One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison.

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[–] Zacpod@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Because Oracle sucks donkey balls.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 84 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Broadcom is where previously good softwares go to die.

Proxmox, Nutanix, Canonical and Incus must be quite happy with the new customers.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 hours ago

At first, I thought the products you were listening were "good softwares going to die". I was like "wut. Proxmox is fucking epic."

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 day ago

Proxmox is amazing.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago

Proxmox ftw

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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 130 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where would we be without predatory rent-seeking?

Someone's going to make a fortune migrating firms off VMWare onto open-source VMs.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 60 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Man could you imagine what proxmox would be if that project got just a tenth of the money VMware got?

Classic prisoners dilemma. Nobody wants to invest in proxmox because not enough people invest in proxmox.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Honestly I think if Proxmox got VMWare money then they’d become stuffed to the gills with business sharks and probably go the same route eventually.

That is not a Proxmox problem, that is a capitalism problem.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 47 points 1 day ago

We told them to go fuck themselves. We retain lawyer specifically in case we have legal concerns, and the way we use their products, price jack up would be so extreme that it’s entirely worth risking it while we migrate away.

[–] wwb4itcgas@lemm.ee 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That seems unlikely to persuade those people to continue using VMware, but good luck with that business strat Broadcom.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

The strategy, from day-1, was to dump low-tier customers and squeeze the big dogs. They knew this wasn't a viable long-term plan. Broadcom knew they had captive customers in the large enterprise space who would take years to migrate. They want to rape all they can, cash out and kill the product someday. But hey! As long as they can squeeze, they will do so.

I mean, fuck me, Oracle is still in business and that's the model Broadcom is going for.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Broadcom is doing an excellent job convincing their customers to stop using VMware. Such a good job that at Red Hat we've shifted strategies with OpenShift Virtualization to pick up those customers. For the longest time our Virt play was just a stop gap to containers, now it's a full blown product.

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