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Poll before 80th anniversary of VE Day finds tensions with Russia seen as most probable cause

80 years after the second world war, polling shows many Americans and western Europeans believe an even more devastating third global conflict could break out within a decade, with tensions with Russia seen as the most probable cause.

As Europe prepares to mark the 80th anniversary of VE Day, the YouGov polling also showed large majorities felt that events during and before the second world war were relevant today and must continue to be taught to younger generations.

Between 41% and 55% of respondents in the five European countries polled: Britain, France, Germany, Italy and Spain, said they thought another world war was very or fairly likely within the next five to 10 years, a view shared by 45% of Americans.

Majorities of 68% to 76% said they expected any new conflict would involve nuclear weapons, and between 57% and 73% also said a third world war would lead to greater loss of life than in 1939-1945. Many (25% to 44%) believed it would kill most people in the world.

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago

WW3 will be fought with nukes. WW4 will be fought with rocks and sticks.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 13 hours ago

The EU should just declare war on Russia, and nip it in the bud before an formal alliance between the Fascist States of America and Russia can be established. When an inevitable war with America comes, Europe shouldn't have a dagger pointed at their back.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I expect we (USA) will balkanize within the next 50.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

i hope we velvet divorce

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

What? We're already in it

[–] Neuromorph@lemm.ee -2 points 15 hours ago

How many countries have sent troops to fight in Ukraine? WW3 had already started. No one has named it yet.

Ask yourself why are north Korean Troops fighting alongside Russians to annex Ukranian land?

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Literally the one undeniable success of the post-WW2 order was the lack of a global-scale hot war. Everything else is tainted by smaller scale conflicts and self-interest and economic inequality and picking winners and losers in a callous and awful way. But, you could always say it's been 60, 70, and then 80 years with no world war 3. We didn't nuke ourselves. We didn't devastate our species' potential to make the world better for more people. I guess on net there was even progress, statistically speaking, though that's small comfort to those it bypassed and the benefits sure as shit were not distributed equitably.

That one thing, that lowest of bars -- no global shooting war -- is now at risk because a handful of men who are stupid or evil or both, surrounded by people orbiting around them on those axes of stupidity and evilness, have decided that too much is not enough.

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

Although i hate nukes, i believe without them we would had WW3 many years ago, and now maybe WW4. Humanity is just immature still.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We have come close... Like that Russian dude on the sub who refused to launch nukes because he was pretty sure it wasn't real.... At least I think I remember that correctly...

I was close

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm in the US and I believe WW3 is within the next 3 years.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In 20 years, they'll say it started in 2022

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Not if it starts with a Pakistan-India war.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Honestly, I think that's unlikely. They tend to keep nukes out of the equation, and keep it to themselves. And honestly as far as nuclear armed skirmishes go, India's kept pretty well within historical boundaries. I.e. they're in constant skirmishes with both Pakistan and China, and sometimes Russia. The fact that that region has remained as stable as it has is a bit of a testament to peace that we should all agree is good, this latest bit notwithstanding. Hopefully it can remain a smallish issue globally, and they resolve it soon, especially because global warming threatens them both.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It possibly already started when ruzzia officially invaded Ukraine in April 2022

[–] Neuromorph@lemm.ee 0 points 15 hours ago

100% agree. When north Korean troops joined Russia it became WW3

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Germany hosting the event again?

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago

Not this time. But their officials don't seem to want to avoid it either.

one of the few times i dance with joy because im 40 and crippled. fuck being forced to kill people to make others more wealthy.