Comments are a hilarious minefield and a painful reminder of exactly how online leftists can never get shit done. We want FOSS federated social media platforms to escape the tech giants that would happily facilitate a fascist wave if it meant they can serve more targeted ads. But when that platform actually exists in a totally functional and apolitical way, we don't want to support its development because the people willing to work full time on the project for poverty wages have bad political opinions. It's so bad that we'd rather support Steve Huffman's bot farm which is 1,000 times as politically influential as Lemmy will ever be at this rate.
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poverty wages
Citation needed.
Across patreon, opencollective and librepay they make a combined total of recurring $3507.66 per month, plus undisclosed amounts in crypto and ko-fi donations.
According to the post, less than $100 go towards hosting .ml, so that's an even 1700 bucks (plus x) for each of the developers.
They are budgeting in EUR, else I believe their origin country is undisclosed, meaning it could be double the national average (Kosovo, Montenegro, Greece); average (Italy, Spain, Portugal) or below average (France, Germany). Just to highlight a few, here's a full list: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage
That's of course under the assumption that they reside in countries that officially use the EUR and not merely use it as a common currency. In Bulgaria, Albania etc. they'd be quite a bit above national average as well (the source I quoted converts all domestic currencies to EUR).
If half the people circlejerking in here were serious they could pay a liberal developer to contribute instead, but somehow I doubt that's happening.
thanks to those who donate and keep this place running, cuz I can't right now :)
Being Ukrainian it's not possible for me to donate to supporters of russian genocidal imperialism.
I hope both of them meet the same fate as "Donbas Cowboy", Russell Bentley:
Bentleyβs wife, Lyudmila, then claimed that Russian soldiers from a tank battalion abducted him.
According to the Investigative Committee, Vansyatsky, Agaltsev, and Iordanov tortured Bentley on April 8, and he died shortly afterward.
I am personally hoping that the core software will be forked while retaining the Lemmy name. Change it to Lemmy-TSF (tankie scum free). I would donate monthly to a development team that doesn't include genocide supporters.
How do you feel about donating to some specific instances instead?
What's stopping you for forking it yourself?
I was thinking long and hard about this to form an opinion, but my answer is no.
The final decission point was: I'm from Slovakia, it's no secret that Russia would love to take us under their sphere of influence. You and your instance is not only supporting this, you're actively propagating this. In fact, I'm pretty sure if Russian soldiers would be at my doorstep, threatening my family, you and your instance would be cheering. And when I would realize, that I actively supported this, that would break me.
If you're about to publish your work for free, I gladly use it as long as it's run by good people like lemmy.world. This way you get no support from me. If I'd pay you, I don't know what part of my support would end up in .ml instance which I see as a propaganda machine against countries like mine. And even if you say that none of my money would end up there, I kind of don't want to support you as a human being. I won't pay your salary so you have energy to do what you do on .ml instance.
If Lemmy as a project dies, so be it. Foss world can always spark successful forks (see OpenElec vs LibreElec) and alternatives like PieFed already exist
I can't take people who use the term "tankie" seriously. If you mean Stalinist, say Stalinist. Most of the time these people are creating a dishonest almagam of Stalinism and all Marxism. Genuine Marxism, that is Trotskyism, stood against Stalinist political distortions and resulting degradation of the Soviet Union. Many people, including Trotsky himself, paid the ultimate price for their faithful defence of the ideals of the Russian Revolution and Soviet democracy. By any measure, Stalin was a mass murderer.
Stalin forsook the program of world revolution in favor of the nationalist program socialism in one country. His policies were disastrous and lead to a famine that claimed the lives of millions of Soviet citizens in the period of the early 1930s, through the entire Soviet Union. There is no evidence that this was an intentional policy of genocide. The so-called "Holodomor" is a fabrication of Ukranian nationalists meant to justify their participation in the Nazi's genocidal war of destruction against the whole Slavic people.