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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If somebody tells you voting is pointless, they are voting for somebody you wouldn't vote for.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

Casting a vote is as effective at achieving political objectives as using Purell a couple times a week is at eradicating COVID.

Voting isnt pointless, it's just not nearly enough.

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't really think that's the case. If you live in an exceptionally partisan area then there's little impact to voting.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That depends on your voting system.

[–] Noved@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right, but this is a Canadian community about the recent Canadian election. The voting system is assumed.

In my riding, if you only had the option of liberal or conservative and a 100% turnout we would still have elected the same blue brick for the 4th time.

Usually this just means I get to vote for whatever party I like the platform enough of/like the leader.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 51 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"One vote never changed anything," said ten million people.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"me reducing my carbon emissions won't change anything" said ten million people.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Any time someone claims "my one vote doesn't matter" I reply with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_close_election_results

Yes, there are a lot of elections that are decided by a very small number of votes.

As the saying goes: "The only wasted vote is the one left uncast."

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 68 points 3 days ago (4 children)

When will the liberal party pass the electoral reform they were elected to pass?

[–] fosho@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

how come no one remembers that WE had a referendum for voting reform and WE voted it down? everyone keeps blaming the liberals when it was the dumb ass population who fucked that up.

[–] walktheplank@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (15 children)

They will with enough pressure. This negative attitude is useless.

[–] walktheplank@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And that pressure comes from the citizens who never put pressure on. I live in a fascist government situation in Canada simply because I am disabled. But people like you would tell me to stop complaining that at least I have some support. I have chased my MP to no effect or response at all. I have done the same with my MLA. I have educated my fellow Canadians. I have ranted and raved for decades and protested about how we are treated as second class citizens and you all are not standing up for us. None of you. I'm purple in the face from screaming into the void.

You expect people to stand up for you? You're delusional. My experiences at the bottom of Canadian society tell me otherwise.

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Thats the fun part, they never do. Then we Anarchists get blamed for not voting hard enough

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yeah, so the Conservatives won with like 80% in my riding. I voted, but I also wondered why while doing it. Man, I wish we had proportional rep.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

I mean I voted but I live in Alberta and don't live in Calgary or Edmonton. Tell me my vote mattered.

Here's a link to the results https://globalnews.ca/news/11130642/canada-election-2025-results-leduc-wetaskiwin/

[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That vote increases funding to the area for progressive outreach and causes. You won't change the entire province with a wole new order but you are part of showing that Alberta isn't a lost cause to the left.

Seriously, this shows left wing lobbiests, charities, politicians, etc. That they can do something in the province. In the end all it may mean is easier access to insulin pumps or less cuts to medical services but that definitly matters.

It's easy to look at the big picture and grow hostile but your vote does matter.

I understand what you're saying, but a 50 point margin is definitely in "lost cause" territory.

I do try to remind myself when seeing results like this that there are still thousands of people who aren't inbred hicks though.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago

If you voted, it mattered

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[–] match@pawb.social 24 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Canada out there making us feel jealous with their "multiple parties" and "meaningful votes"

[–] Hazematman@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm worried our multiple parties could disappear after this election :( I understand why it happened but I hope the trend doesn't continue to a two party liberal vs conservative system in Canada

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

The Bloc isn't going anywhere and the NDP will likely gain seats back next election with a fresh leader, especially if they pick a charismatic one.

[–] hazeydreams@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

Ya I don't think it will. Also remember we started with a two-party system. Political parties come and go.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm Indigenous and I have family and friends who live throughout the north.

I couldn't believe the recent Ontario election for the representative for Mushkegowuk-James Bay ... the NDP candidate won it by 9 votes

And I have a ton of people in all those northern communities who all don't vote because none of them believe that it is worth it because they are Native.

[–] TheBloodFarts@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Please show them these margins. it's crazy to me how small the number of votes are per riding and really puts everything into perspective

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm in a riding that is consistently held by the conservatives, and not by a small amount. There are something like 40-50k votes cast in my riding and the difference between lib and conservative was about 6k.

I still go out and vote, because some day the 6k difference might be 12 individual votes....

If the conservatives win by a handful of votes, and I didn't vote, I don't think I could forgive myself.

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[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago

Yeah, there were a lot of close ones this time.

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 9 points 3 days ago

35 difference in Terrebonne riding in QC, Liberals won.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago (23 children)

Those anarchists, tankies, fascists and authoritarians who claim this are just trying to sabotage democracy.

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Or it's people who feel disenfranchised.

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