this post was submitted on 20 Apr 2025
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Apologies if this is the wrong comm, I'm not Matrix verified so probably can't post in !hexbear@hexbear.net

Just thought I should mention this before admins end up doing the upgrade. Most federated instances, including lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad have already upgraded by now.

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[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 46 points 4 days ago

RIP again to all the people who upvote as a way of marking as read

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 27 points 4 days ago

I upvoted this thread. Just so the mods know :^)

[–] dead@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

https://hexbear.net/comment/6038478

You can see that the Hexbear admin already posted on this update. Also Mods being able to see user upvotes is not new. I think this update only adds a new feature which allows mods to view votes in a different way. Your votes are not a secret. Lemmy is not a {battle bots|ballot box}.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago

Votes aren't secret, but allowing community mods, not just admins, being able to see them is new

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Also a federated non-Lemmy software can also see all votes, and can choose whether to display them or not. Votes have never been private and never can be. They're just hidden away.

If any common user wants to see them, they can set up their own server (thus becoming the admin) and pull in any federated content they want to see the details of.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is true, although with Hexbear specifically, you might have to get approval to federate

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Right, I hope that our mods would defed any instance acting in bad faith, but it's possible that if something were to change it would be too late anyway since that instance would have all the data already.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah. I think we operate on an allowlist system as opposed to a blocklist system like many other instances

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Didn't we already have this?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago

Admins could, now mods can for the comms they moderate

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago
[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How long til lemmy votes look like Facebook where you can see who liked a post/comment?

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

As other users have already pointed out, it's this way even before the update if you create your own federated instance since admins can already see this

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I gota be honest. I'm surprised a removeddit doesn't exist yet for Lemmy. Or at least that I know of.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

The decentralized nature of federation might make it simultaneously harder and easier. I wonder if instance admins can see deleted posts/comments from other instances since those deletions and edits have to federate.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago
[–] autism_2@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

I am being targeted for upvoting beanis

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Couldn't they do that already?

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

As far as I understand: admins yes, mods no

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago
[–] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago