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Recently I was simultaneously banned from a huge pile of "communities" with a mod commentary "for upvoting homophobic materials"(or "transphonic", I don't remember exactly). This kind of bans is the very reason why I quit Reddit. Is it normal here, or is it just some feral mod from Reddit?

P.S. Before you sidestep/offtop/ad-hominem here: no, I have nothing against LGBT folk and absolutely not interested in the theme.

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[–] uselessRN@lemm.ee 0 points 21 hours ago

Yeah man seems like the problem is you. Maybe you just suck.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You got banned from trans friendly communities for making transphobic comments, then upvoting other transphobic comments. The rest of your removed comments speak volumes about your character, so I suspect the rest of the bans are preemptive. I don't blame them. Reddit is probably a better choice for you.

https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=18040122

More action here:

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=16876741

Edit: Choice "I'm not against LGBT" comment quote -

So... People who couldn't keep from shouting about their "pronouns" irritated bystanders so much that they were ready to vote even for Trump just to shut up those crazy pronouns-bearers :)

Right.

Edit2: mein Gott, there's more! Totally no LGBT issues here.

Your response to this pro-Trans meme about the world being a better place with Trans folk in it:

BUT WITHOUT YOU IT WOULD BE EXCELLENT!

Right^2^. Did you not realize mod logs are public?

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

Thank you for documenting

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 25 points 2 days ago

oh yea, I remember your name! someone posted a pro trans meme saying "the world is better with you in it." and you responded something like, 'it would be even better without you'. I hope you get banned again.

[–] LettucePrey@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

You know what? I'm gonna use this opportunity to preemptively block you. Bye.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

That most likely wasn't a moderator, but an administrator. ~~The ability to view votes in communities for mods is not available in the latest release of Lemmy yet. That will come in the next release, 1.0.0.~~

Though I can't see any modlog entries for your account. Did you get instance banned and created a new account here?

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 4 points 2 days ago

Oh, didn't notice that. Thanks for the info. Regardless, it wasn't a ban from a moderator.

[–] Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, this is a new account.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Okay.

I assume your previous account was @Lembot_0001@lemm.ee, which was instance banned from lemmy.ml. The administrator was davel. You can try and ask him if it bothers you, maybe even appeal your ban. Your new account most likely will be instance banned again if you try and engage in lemmy.ml communities again, given your username is pretty much the same.

Honestly, we got lots of active alternatives to lemmy.ml communities, as the majority here hates lemmy.ml. Don't be surprised if you get banned from lemmy.ml again. Check out !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

[–] Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

account was @Lembot_0001@lemm.ee

Yes, it was.

The administrator was davel. You can try and ask him

Arguing with moderators/administrators is mostly just a humiliating waste of time. I'll pass :)

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Lemmy.ml has been known for arbitrary bans for a while; https://feddit.nl/post/16246531

~~You'll be fine on lemm.ee~~

That said, seems like you're a transphobe, so you'll probably get banned from lemm.ee as well

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Bonus: measured response under a post about a keyboard lmao

1984

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah, in the meantime people pointed that OP is indeed transphobic. OP will probably get banned from lemm.ee as well

I edited my comment above

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 2 days ago

I love the imagery of someone coming all politely to the help desk when their post history is flaming garbage.

"why doesn't anyone want to host or see my bullshit?! help!"

[–] normal_user@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm starting to see some kind of trend with people being mad about the moderation on hexbear and .ml

Very curious indeed.

[–] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Very curious indeed. If we take a look at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works (is this how I link communities?) we can see several posts from the last couple hours alone of people getting banned for sane takes and attempts at discussion. Truly, it's a wonder that anyone would be upset by this

[–] normal_user@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imagine going to communities that sometimes literally have rules like "not being a liberal", in a lemmy server made specifically for people to discuss a specific type of socio-economic structure, and then being mad when you get banned for not following the rules.

On some of those communities, your opinions are not welcomed, that's way people get banned.
If the mods were to become softer on bans, every post would have the same infinite discussion about the same thing over and over again. If I wanted to see an endless amount of liberal takes, I would just use one of my backup accounts on other lemmy servers.

Lemmygrad and Hexbear have a different scope, they are mostly for people who don't want to get on internet fights all the time, and in order to preserve the good vibes, unwanted people get banned. No reason to be surprised about it.

[–] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Let's take a look at one of those posts (since you obviously didn't)

The comment in question is in response to a post that says "Capitalism is the root of evil" and says

The state owning the means of production means the people running the state have a shit ton of power. Just takes a handful of bad people to turn that into oppression as we've seen in the USSR and China. If you disagree feel free to explain your reasoning

This person's comment was removed and they were banned from the community, with the only explanation being "Rule 1"

Now the mod who banned this person was Dessalines, who is an admin for .ml, not a mod for the Memes community, so I'm not sure if they are referring to the Meme community's rule 1 or lemmy.ml rule 1, so let's take a look at both.

Lemmy.ml Rule 1:

No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.

I'm failing to see how the original comment relates to any of the listed terms or what this has to with "not being a liberal." If you disagree, please enlighten me

Memes Rule 1:

Be civil and nice

I can only see civility in the comment and, once again, nothing about "don't be a liberal"

Is the fog starting to lift yet or are you still going to be intentionally dense about why people don't like you?

[–] normal_user@hexbear.net 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

First of all, rule number 1 on Lemmy.ml is:

No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.

Obviously the comment might not fall within the unwanted behaviours directly listed on rule 1 but I have taken a look at the Code of Conduct and I can say that, like every code of conduct, it's worded in a way so that a whole lot of things could fall under it.

Also looking at the banned comment, let's keep in mind that it was responding to a meme on the meme community. But the comment is written in a way so that the author makes it clear that their position, their ideas, are superior to that of the poster of the meme.

The state owning the means of production means the people running the state have a shit ton of power.

This first statement is an opinion of the person that commented, but it is phrased like it's a fact that everyone should know.
If the author of the comment wanted a nice and civil discussion, he should have provided some sources for this statement.

Just takes a handful of bad people to turn that into oppression as we've seen in the USSR and China.

Again, this second phrase is also phrased like a statement. It's also trying to dismiss the existence itself of democratic centralism and, without understanding how countries that implement it work, the commenter says that those countries are "oppressive" and "run by bad people".
Did this person provide any sources for their claim ? No, why then is the next phrase in the comment the following:

If you disagree feel free to explain your reasoning.

As you can see from this last line of the comment, the author is trying to bait a debate.
He is saying that if you disagree with the bunch of made up, unsourced, statement the author believes in, you have to explain your reasoning.
This is not a way to engage in a healthy debate, you don't make a response based on propagandized assumptions, with no source to back them up, and then pass the microphone to the other side.

I personally believe then that the Rule 1 in question might actually be the one from the community itself:

Be civil and nice.

In no way was the author of the comment proposing his world view and trying to engage in discussion in a nice and civil way, especially when he knew that most people in .ml would disagree with them.

You actually did the same thing with your own comment. You are trying to make your position seem superior as you bait me into debate. How ? Well, I'll keep it short by only talking about the end of your response:

Is the fog starting to lift yet or are you still going to be intentionally dense about why people don't like you?

This way of phrasing your request to debate on this, is clearly made in a way so that it insults the opponent, it is supposed to make the person responding look dumb, "dense", and you as the enlightened, "fogless", individual with the better opinion.

That's way I probably am not going to reply again if you respond to this comment, you don't seem to want a nice discussion on way that person was banned, but are instead trying to bait a debate where you phrase your response so that you don't actually have to read mine, to actually understand where I'm coming from, because you feel enlightened, while my position is "fogged" and "dense".

[–] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago

You're right, I got heated, and I'm sorry, but if you are genuinely incapable of understanding why people don't like your community and those associated with it, then you are fogged and dense

Yes banning people for votes, fraudulent, excessive, or made seeminly in bad faith is a thing. Mods can view votes these days but also admins have been able to view them for a long time.

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, looking up the modlog for Lembot_0001 on lemmy.ml it seems there was more going on than just upvotes, and they got in trouble with programming.dev, europe@feddit and more as well.

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Oof… yeah, that sort of tea kettle of targeted rage and violence seems more like a 4chan user. They also happened to find themself on some of the instances that have reputations of their own (I’m not referring to either of the two instances that you mentioned). Should I pre-emptively type Lembot_0003 to 9999 into my blocked accounts list?

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

being banned on .ml communities for "rule 1" is extremely vague though, since they'll call you a xenophobe for criticising China.

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah, and those aren't tied to a comment or anything it's harder to make an opinion of our own. But for the communities I mentioned there are visible comments, and … I think OP wouldn't have a good time at lemmy.ml, hexbear or blahaj, or even any instance where some common decency is expected.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

.ml is notorious for arbitrary bans so I wouldn't think too much about it. There are active alternatives for most (but probably not all) communities hosted there. Criticizing Russia there is also a great way to get in trouble with the admins because they're explicitly tankies.

lol, no. No one has ever been banned from .ml for "criticizing Russia." Even the communist admins of .ml have no love for modern Russia which is a capitalist country, they just know that throwing every single working class Ukrainian person into the meat grinder is the best way forward. And "tankies," as the above commenter is using the term, are just people who recognize that history existed prior to February of 2022.

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